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Trump Signs $900 Billion Pandemic Relief Bill

posted by martyb on Monday December 28 2020, @07:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the Hang-in-there dept.

An Anonymous Coward writes:

Many sources are reporting that Trump finally signed the pandemic relief bill:

Not gonna summarize all the bits in it - it's some 5k pages of legalese gobbledygook, but I understand it continues augmented unemployment benefits, eviction suspension, funding to prevent government shutdown, and another direct cash payment.

I'm sure it also has a bunch of "porky pork", but the people are suffering, time is of essence, and it should have been done months ago.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday December 31 2020, @10:12PM (3 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday December 31 2020, @10:12PM (#1093417) Journal

    So rather than accept what really happened, which is easy to verify via hundreds of thousands of videos and public auctions that sold buildings for $500 and failed to attract bids for other buildings at that low price, you continue to stick your fingers in your ears and say "that doesn't make sense to me so it cannot be true."

    Because you wrote "new homes" and "brand new warehouses". That's not a sign of a healthy economy when valuable real estate gets destroyed merely to lower property taxes.

    It's why many commercial buildings are either bulldozed, imploded, or gutted after 50 years - they're worth less in their current state than the land on which they sit is worth empty.

    Sorry, that's not it. You started this thread talking about real estate from the last real estate bubble. Most that is less than 20 years old. I have no problems with old structures being razed to make way for a more valuable use of the property. That's human history ever since we started building stuff thousands of years ago. What's different here is destroying new property merely because of taxes. It's particularly ridiculous since you started this thread advocating for high taxes. So we see here that one of the problems of your higher taxation is that it encourages more destruction of good real estate. That's dumb.

    I also am less than inspired by your examples. I assure you that in warm climates those pools are still seen as advantages. And making fireplaces and diesel buses costly via regulation is just more of the same bad ideas you've been having.

  • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Thursday December 31 2020, @11:40PM (2 children)

    by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Thursday December 31 2020, @11:40PM (#1093430) Journal
    Communities that calculate the excess deaths of pollution caused by Diesel engines, as well as increased health care costs, don't want Diesel engines any more. Once you factor in the costs of externalities, electric is cheaper.'

    After all, dead people don't contribute to the economy, or the tax base.

    'kind of like the story of your life. And you're never going to have any sort of professional career. Simply not qualified by either temperament or ability.

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday January 01 2021, @02:17AM (1 child)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday January 01 2021, @02:17AM (#1093466) Journal

      Communities that calculate the excess deaths of pollution caused by Diesel engines, as well as increased health care costs, don't want Diesel engines any more.

      Communities are notorious for being unable to make such calculations.

      • (Score: 2) by barbara hudson on Friday January 01 2021, @03:57AM

        by barbara hudson (6443) <barbara.Jane.hudson@icloud.com> on Friday January 01 2021, @03:57AM (#1093490) Journal
        Except that because of the climate crisis, communities are getting better at including externalities in total costs. It's why diesels are being banned. Particulates and exhaust raise death rates, especially among people living within one block of main roads. Ditto hospitalizations and days lost.

        We banned fireplaces years ago. Winter air is noticeably cleaner.

        The hybrid buses are quieter, and use less fuel despite being air conditioned.

        Which is why there's almost a billion being spent on an underground garage for the new electric fleet, and more $$$ for another 800 all-electric buses. And 5 billion or more for an electric regional transit system to connect to the existing electric subway system.

        So maybe communities in the USA are still shitty at defying lobbyists, but that's your problem. Not mine. We've got tons of clean green electricity, might as well use it.

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