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Many sources are reporting that Trump finally signed the pandemic relief bill:
- Trump signs stimulus and government spending bill into law, averting shutdown
- Trump Signs Pandemic Relief Bill After Unemployment Aid Lapses
- Trump signs stimulus bill ahead of government shutdown, releasing checks and aid
- Trump signs COVID relief bill amid pressure, but adds conditions
Not gonna summarize all the bits in it - it's some 5k pages of legalese gobbledygook, but I understand it continues augmented unemployment benefits, eviction suspension, funding to prevent government shutdown, and another direct cash payment.
I'm sure it also has a bunch of "porky pork", but the people are suffering, time is of essence, and it should have been done months ago.
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Trump Signs $900 Billion Pandemic Relief Bill
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(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:12PM (3 children)
The COVID-19 Stimulus Bill Would Make Illegal Streaming a Felony
https://soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=20/12/22/2140223 [soylentnews.org]
So is this included in the bill that was signed?
It should be noted that people protested SOPA, the TPP, etc... and we never see protests in favor of stricter IP laws so it's hard to imagine that these laws are being driven by the public.
While the elections may lack measures to ensure their integrity one thing that's harder to cheat is the fact that we may see mass protests against stricter IP laws yet we don't see mass protests in favor of stricter IP laws (despite the fact that the corrupt mainstream media tries to ignore these issues).
Politicians may have seen COVID as an opportunity to pass more laws that no one wants, and to sneak them into larger bills, because the media will ignore these issues, people aren't really going to protest with COVID going on, and the media can create hype over why such a huge stimulus bill is needed while not covering the fact that stricter IP laws are being snuck into it.
This is not really acceptable and we need to start figuring out how to get IP laws to go in the opposite direction instead of having them continue to march forward at the will of corporate interests against the public interest.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:05AM (1 child)
Copyright enforcement was a civil action, now it is criminal run by a kangaroo court with no appeals.
FUCK THE PIECE OF SHIT FROM NORTH CAROLINA THAT DID THIS
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @07:05PM
It takes more than one congressman to pass a bill. Fuck your piece of shit too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @07:03PM
bUt PeOpLe ArE sUfFeRrInG!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @08:17PM (18 children)
This was "must-sign" legislation. Allow me to explain...
People have an amazing ability to survive and to help one-another to survive. The expansion of food bank efforts during the pandemic are a sign of this.
Had the legislation _not_ been signed. people would have invented ways to survive without the "help" of the government, thereby learning that they were largely not in need of it. This, naturally, would lead them to begin to feel themselves to be independent of it.
This could not be permitted.
You _must_ believe that your well-being is entirely dependent on the dole of government, because, otherwise, it will be unable to manipulate and control you. POTUS did not understand this last week. Someone must have finally explained it to him.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by barbara hudson on Monday December 28 2020, @09:26PM (16 children)
Throw in the people who don't want to "make people dependent on help" and tell the homeless in warming shelters that they need to be out looking for non-existence jobs. Or that if you're homeless you don't have the tools to look for a job - a an address to give employers, a good nights sleep, clean clothes, a shower, etc. >p> And whatever caused homelessness doesn't just go away when you have a temporary place to sit inside overnight to keep from freezing. Even if you didn't have a history of mental problems, you'd probably end up as one of the 5 people suffering from mental problems in any year - anxiety, depression, etc. How could you not be anxious and depressed - you're homeless!
But plenty of people don't get it. Privileged entitled ignorant assholes. The true dregs of society, who need to make room for humans.
SoylentNews is social media. Says so right in the slogan. Soylentnews is people, not tech.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @09:34PM (12 children)
There's homeless everywhere out here. Why isn't the government helping them?
(Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @09:44PM (7 children)
Because most of them are men. No one gives a fuck about men.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @11:21PM (5 children)
Perhaps men should band together and help eachother?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @11:50PM (2 children)
Can't, Democrats banned banding together due to covid.
(Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @02:41AM (1 child)
I hear it's possible to meet other gentlemen on craiglist if you are discreet.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30 2020, @07:24AM
Have you been on Craigslist? Maybe it is just the version for around here, but the last word I'd use to describe many of the listing of the type you are suggesting is "discreet."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @07:54AM (1 child)
Parent comment wins. It's time for a real Men's Rights Movement. MRM groups like AVFM are detrimental and undermine men's rights by creating a false dilemma between men's rights and women's rights, as though this is some kind of balancing act in a zero-sum game. However, AVFM takes after the feminist tradition of playing fast and loose with statistics, gish galloping, paranoid conspiracy theories, assuming that experiences of gender and sexuality that do not match one's own are inauthentic/immoral/unethical, etc. Beware magic vaginas and magic dicks capable of changing a person's sexual orientation.
Tho it would be better to have some kind of humanist movement that is serious about smashing patriarchy and all the "pros" and "cons" of being one gender compared to the other.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @08:40AM
I for one support your right to take it in the butt by anyone whom you choose. You go girl!
(Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @01:21AM
Poor victim!
Why can't they see you are a victim? Why can't they see you are entitled???
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 28 2020, @09:47PM
Because they're helping mental case fuckups like tranny barbarahudson https://soylentnews.org/~barbara+hudson/ [soylentnews.org] get "mo fee stuff" as "it" plays DISABLED (blind which anyone can fake) OR to have its balls cutoff at YOUR EXPENSE as a TAXPAYER instead of feeding or housing poor kids. BarbaraHudson (tomhudson) is a total lying do nothing no good bullshit artist scumbag of the highest order playing "victim" and "virtue signalling" when it has NO virtue period and it was proven on slashdot by Apk https://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=14501614&cid=59043858 [slashdot.org] and by others on this site here (take a read, barb doesn't dare confront any of it) https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?noupdate=1&sid=41274&page=1&cid=1091104#commentwrap [soylentnews.org] since all that was stated is fact/truth about that sick in the head tranny weirdo barb.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:09AM (1 child)
Why aren't YOU helping them?
You and everyone who thinks like you has completely failed to comprehend how the United States Government is supposed to work. *YOU*, the individual, are the government. YOU help your fellow man.
Stop blaming someone else and start blaming yourself.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:26AM
Can't due to licensing agreement. Not allowed to participate in "humanitarian endeavours".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:38AM
The government is too busy preventing people from working for their own survival and welfare.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:08AM (2 children)
OP here.
You mis-read my post, my dear Hudson. Nowhere do I deny that there is need and suffering, the litany of which you well rehearse. Nor do I suggest that a feeling being turn a blind eye to said tragedies. I was merely pointing out that the onus for responding to said tragedies will not necessarily be upon the federal government.
If USA is attacked by Japan, then clearly we would prefer a federal level response rather than 50 million independent Rambos taking up arms. OTOH, if there are many thousands of homeless, each one presenting a unique history, then perhaps a more local response is called for.
I do not deny the need to maintain federal governance, nor do I deny the need to to respond to want and suffering of our fellow humans.
I only suggest that sometimes leaders foster a dependency relationship which does not naturally exist for their own political ends.
I have no dog in this fight, and I align with no particular party. I merely try to see clearly what's going on around me, and there are a myriad valid viewpoints, of which the one I posted is rather an alternate one. The truth of the matter, one day, will out.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @08:43AM (1 child)
Sir, you appear to have a stick in your butt. Good day to you.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 30 2020, @11:25PM
I was born like this, don't even gotta try
ya-ya-ee
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @06:23PM
More likely he was fully cognizant of this. One might wonder what he got in exchange for his signature during his negotiating golf excursion.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:10AM (1 child)
I spent my $2000 already. Now the Senate can't take it back, they must send the check.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:42AM
On behalf of the American public, I want to thank you for taking the personal initiative to lock in the promised $2000 amount for all of us.
(Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday December 29 2020, @12:14AM (8 children)
National-Socialism aka Trump-Sanders have won; $2000 goes to the people.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday December 29 2020, @09:50AM (7 children)
I'm just wondering, are you considering this drop to be "helicopter money" (as per Friedman via Bernanke)?
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 3, Interesting) by legont on Tuesday December 29 2020, @10:47AM (6 children)
It is helicopter money all right.
As per long term effects, I am aware of both theories - top to bottom and bottom to the top so to speak. The top to bottom have been preferred since early 80s and it says, in a nutshell, that money given to rich will be invested as opposed to spent without good results so is more effective for everybody. Unfortunately it was proven wrong in my opinion as rich don't invest any more. Only a total idiot would invest in real economy in the current environment so the top to bottom stimulus simply produces higher asset prices with no economy expansion whatsoever.
Would it help to give money to poor so they could spend it on hash and booze? Probably not too, but it would give more people more pleasure they deserved after being robbed for two generations.
Yes, jokes aside, National Socialism is coming one way or another. Better get ready which is what I do.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @03:20PM
As long as the homeless spend the money that's good for business and the rich. The money is going to be used to buy some product or service from some business who get richer, even if that company produce booze. The drug dealer might not pay tax, but he will spend his black money on gold chains and cars from a business that pay tax. Good economy is simply* said money being circulated instead of standing still. I think it's always the right call to put more money in the hands of regular people if you want to boost the economy. If you want to stimulate a special industry that's not getting a natural support from consumers, but would benefit society in the longer run, you give them great tax deals. If you just give tax cuts to business, it won't give them larger sales as the end consumer don't have extra money to spend, so no extra production and no reason to hire more people.
* An economy can overheat too, in which case you need to slow down the circulation of money.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday December 29 2020, @05:53PM (4 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday December 29 2020, @07:38PM (3 children)
I knew you were trolling, but I post for the sake of others.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday December 29 2020, @08:30PM (2 children)
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by legont on Tuesday December 29 2020, @08:42PM
Your trap was pathetic, fat man, but for the sake of innocent I had to bite.
"Wealth is the relentless enemy of understanding" - John Kenneth Galbraith.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 29 2020, @10:49PM
This is why propaganda is bad, it leads to long term effects where society is impacted by brainwashed fools that believed said propaganda. Reality be damned, propaganda has taught you what really matters right? Ok seriously, I am curious how you think a 2k stimulus check will hurt society.