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posted by janrinok on Monday January 04 2021, @01:17PM   Printer-friendly

A UK judge has just announced that Assange cannot be extradited to the USA because his treatment by the US would cause him to be a suicide risk. However, he is not released as the prosecution and the USA may decide to appeal. He remains in Belmarsh prison but the courts still have to decide whether he should be released.

The political arguments were all dismissed by the Judge but her decision is based solely on the treatment he will receive in the USA.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55528241

Also:

The UK Westminster Magistrates' Court decision is now public, Wikileaks journalist Julian Assange will not be extradited from the UK to the US...

407. The defence complains that the late service of the second superseding indictment has resulted in unfairness in the preparation of its case. Mindful of any potential unfairness flowing from the late service of this amended indictment, on Friday 14 August 2020, I invited the defence to consider applying to adjourn the evidential hearing which was due to commence on 7 September 2020. I gave them the opportunity to consider this invitation over the course of a week but, on 21 August 2020, the defence confirmed that itwould not be seeking to adjourn proceedings. No further applications were made between that date and 7 September 2020.

408. In my judgment the appropriate remedy for any unfairness arising from the late indictment would have been to allow the defence sufficient time prepare its case and advance any relevant arguments. That time was offered in August 2020 and declined.

409. I reject the defence submissions concerning staying extradition as an abuse of the process of this court.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/USA-v-Assange-judgment-040121.pdf

... unless the decision is appealed by either the outgoing US administration or the incoming one.


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  • (Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Monday January 04 2021, @02:45PM (15 children)

    by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday January 04 2021, @02:45PM (#1094480)

    He's being temporarily held for a couple of weeks, as the legal process has not ended w/ the judge's decision. And she didn't make the decision based on probable guilt or legality of the charges. This is the worst part. What she said was that she takes no issue with his claim of guilt and fully believes he will be given an honest trial which will put him in prison.

    The reason to deny the request she gave was he looked mentally unstable and the US prison system in her opinion doesn't take care of the jailbirds enough to prevent his possible suicide. While it's a nice Epstein joke, it's not by any means a victory dance. In my personal opinion, it's also pretty easy to appeal that decision because of her given reason. Not good.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 04 2021, @03:11PM (14 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 04 2021, @03:11PM (#1094489) Journal

    IMO, if and when he gets outside of a prison wall, he needs to beat feet somewhere that has no extradition agreements with either the US or the UK. Russia? Huh. I believe Assange has published a few things that has pissed Russia off as well.

    There may well be no safe haven for him. The crazy angle may be his only hope!

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    “I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
    • (Score: 2) by looorg on Monday January 04 2021, @03:24PM

      by looorg (578) on Monday January 04 2021, @03:24PM (#1094497)

      So quick email to Edward to see if he has a spare room?

    • (Score: 2) by fakefuck39 on Monday January 04 2021, @04:10PM (12 children)

      by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday January 04 2021, @04:10PM (#1094512)

      perhaps venezuela
      https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Venezuela-Rejects-Asylum-Removal-and-Arrest-of-Julian-Assange-20190412-0011.html [telesurenglish.net]

      i don't think the us is at russia-level yet where we just execute someone in a foreign country while in the world's eye. we only do that inside our country.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @04:22PM (11 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @04:22PM (#1094516)

        i don't think the us is at russia-level yet where we just execute someone in a foreign country while in the world's eye. we only do that inside our country.

        Anwar al-Awlaki [wikipedia.org] might disagree with that assessment.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @04:24PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @04:24PM (#1094518)

          Sandpeople doesn't count.

        • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by fakefuck39 on Monday January 04 2021, @04:44PM (8 children)

          by fakefuck39 (6620) on Monday January 04 2021, @04:44PM (#1094527)

          So Obama killed a US Citizen and his son without a trial, then Trump executed his 8yo daughter. I always had a hunch he was into fucking little brown girls.

          https://youtu.be/qFiXn8nhM48?t=41 [youtu.be]

          and now this
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8 [youtube.com]

          what were we talking about again? oh yeah, the dems and the republicans execute citizens and their little kids without a trial. here's the issue with getting angry about that. If you're a citizen and you represent an organization blowing up skyscrapers, and you actively train people who do, you are actively engaged in killing of other citizens. At that point, you can be captured alive, or shot in the back to prevent more killings. It's the same reason a cop can shoot you in the back, if after you killed someone you start running away with your gun.

          Now as far as the dead kids, they joined a group of literal terrorists, and were killed when we blew up the terrorists. I don't mean "terrorists" like in a label. I mean people with guns who have killed hundreds of people. so again, a case where you don't need a trial. you only get a trial if you turn yourself in, not if you run away to kill more people.

          So while Anwar al-Awlaki might disagree, no one's listening. Because we killed him to prevent him from killing more of us.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @06:59PM (5 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @06:59PM (#1094583)

            > oh yeah, the dems and the republicans execute citizens and their little kids without a trial. here's the issue with getting angry about that. If you're a citizen and you represent an organization blowing up skyscrapers, and you actively train people who do, you are actively engaged in killing of other citizens.

            Likewise, if you vote democrat or republican you are actively engaged in murder of citizens and their little kids. Agreed, Democrats and Republicans are basically the fifth of the earth, and anyone who has voted for either needs to face some kind of reckoning.

            • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @07:52PM (4 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @07:52PM (#1094625)

              Cute, the trumpers are going full BOTH SIDES now that they're fascist coup failed. Kinda like that video of the "patriot" protest in Oregon where one protester got shot with rubber bullets and now they're all angry at cops who are supposed to be on their side. Haha what fucking morons.

              Maybe we should band together and support Reform Party candidates that promise to actually fix election funding and processes like the un-auditable voting machines. After we get that fixed we can resume partisan bickering.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @08:11PM (3 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @08:11PM (#1094640)

                Haha. Most people are neither republicans not democrats, any random person you really to is most likely neither. You are a minority who is tolerated by people who just want to be left alone to live their lives.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @09:14PM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @09:14PM (#1094675)

                  "You are a minority who is tolerated by people who just want to be left alone to live their lives."

                  That would be Trumpers, but don't stretch out that brain it is already too smooth.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @10:06PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 04 2021, @10:06PM (#1094696)

                    You still don't get it. You are on the same side as Trumpers. Unless you are in the majority who doesnt vote or votes third party, which I doubt.

                    And around half the people who do vote for the fascists (democrats and republicans) really don't care that much. The rabid ones like you are probably 10-20% of the country. A small minority that causes all these problems for everyone else by reelecting fascists every election.

                • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday January 04 2021, @11:49PM

                  by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 04 2021, @11:49PM (#1094746) Journal

                  I want to agree with you. But, I don't think you're right. If we are to believe the numbers, about 150 million people actually voted in the 2020 election. That's nearly half of all US residents. Take away prisoners, convicts, expats, mentally incompetent, too young to vote, and you have well over half of adult Americans voting this time around.

                  People who want to be left alone? Well, the numbers say that well over 2/3 of registered voters are either R or D.

                  https://ballot-access.org/2020/10/24/nationwide-voter-registration-data-by-party/ [ballot-access.org]

                  https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/10/26/what-the-2020-electorate-looks-like-by-party-race-and-ethnicity-age-education-and-religion/ [pewresearch.org]

                  If you were correct that most people just want to be left alone, then we would see a lot more people registered Independent, and voting for issues. That is, I will always vote for a candidate with a passing grade on gun rights issues. I consider other issues important, but second amendment considerations take priority almost all the time. Registered Independent, and want to be left alone - and won't tolerate the assholes who want to confiscate my property.

                  --
                  “I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
          • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 05 2021, @12:04AM (1 child)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 05 2021, @12:04AM (#1094756) Journal

            Well, yeah, it's pretty much alright to kill men and their sons. When you come back and kill off the wives and daughters, then it's a genocide. Ask the Armenians, they're pretty well versed on genocide.

            --
            “I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
            • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday January 05 2021, @12:05AM

              by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday January 05 2021, @12:05AM (#1094757) Journal

              Oh yeah - fuck Wankagain Erdogan.

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              “I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 05 2021, @02:35PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 05 2021, @02:35PM (#1094966)

          Or Qassem Soleimani.