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posted by martyb on Tuesday January 05 2021, @07:53PM   Printer-friendly
from the so-it-has-come-to-this dept.

LA Paramedics Told Not To Transport Some Patients With Low Chance Of Survival:

The Los Angeles County Emergency Medical Services Agency issued a directive Monday that ambulance crews should only administer bottled oxygen to patients whose oxygen saturation levels fall below 90%.

In a separate memo from the county's EMS Agency, paramedic crews have been told not to transfer patients who experience cardiac arrest unless spontaneous circulation can be restored on the scene.

Both measures announced Monday, which were issued by the agency's medical director, Dr. Marianne Gausche-Hill, were taken in an attempt to get ahead of an expected surge to come following the winter holidays.

Many hospitals in the region "have reached a point of crisis and are having to make very tough decisions about patient care," Dr. Christina Ghaly, the LA County director of health services said at a briefing Monday.

[...] "We do not believe that we are yet seeing the cases that stemmed from the Christmas holiday," Ghaly added. "This, sadly, and the cases from the recent New Year's holiday, is still before us, and hospitals across the region are doing everything they can to prepare."

'We Are Not Abandoning Resuscitation': LA County Healthcare Leader Speaks Out After Memo Raises Concerns:

Los Angeles County hospitals are so inundated, officials said they're just trying to provide the best care they can for the people who need it.

The memo sent out on December 28 by the medical director of L.A. County's Emergency Medical Services agency, Dr. Marianne Gausche-Hill, addressed how first responders should treat stroke and heart attack patients, saying a patient should be treated at the scene first and have a pulse during resuscitation before transporting them to the hospital.

[...] The medical director of L.A. County's Emergency Services Agency, Dr. Marianne Gausche-Hill, assured CBS2 that officials continue to do all they can to save patients' lives at the scene and the hospital, as they always have.

"We are not abandoning resuscitation," Gausche-Hill said. "We are absolutely doing best practice resuscitation and that is do it in the field, do it right away... What we're asking is that — which is slightly different than before — is that we are emphasizing the fact that transporting these patients arrested leads to very poor outcomes.


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  • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Tuesday January 05 2021, @08:48PM (4 children)

    by Immerman (3985) on Tuesday January 05 2021, @08:48PM (#1095187)

    Who pays for that excess inventory that never gets used? It's coming out of somebody's pocket, probably stockholders and maybe even executive bonuses. What incentive would anyone with the power to make such a decision have to do so?

    The government could have stepped in and paid for it to spread the pain around - except that the head executive has been steadfastly refused to acknowledge the threat, and actively hamstrung the organizations that should be organizing such a response, and his political party has been more interested in passing loyalty tests than doing their damned job.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 05 2021, @10:10PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 05 2021, @10:10PM (#1095258)

    ... you mean Trump, right?

    The guy who's responsible for LA County directly ... no, wait, he's not. In fact, he's a couple of links of the chain removed.

    But he could have helped!

    Wait, he sent a hospital ship that was never used...

    But his party tripped it all up!

    The party that's not in charge of anything in spitting distance of LA County, let alone its healthcare....

    Dude, find a better target for poo flinging. I hear german tourists work nicely.

    • (Score: 2) by Immerman on Wednesday January 06 2021, @01:57AM

      by Immerman (3985) on Wednesday January 06 2021, @01:57AM (#1095403)

      There's plenty of blame to spread around, but a great deal of leadership happens by example.

      If someone isn't willing to take responsibility for the people who follow their lead, they shouldn't be allowed in a leadership position.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Tork on Wednesday January 06 2021, @04:15AM (1 child)

      by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday January 06 2021, @04:15AM (#1095459)

      The party that's not in charge of anything in spitting distance of LA County, let alone its healthcare....

      Trump intentionally skipped repeated warnings and played down the virus, this soaked up a bunch of valuable lead-up time for every state/county/city etc. He made a thing about not wearing a mask and now the fashionable thing to do is get into groups of people, maskless, and storm shops that have a mask policy. We already know that won't end well. He threatened to withhold virus aid from numerous places for a multitude of reasons, all petty. He did not lock down travel from China in a meaningful way, t'was just theater. He kept infected cruise ships away to artificially keep the numbers down. Oh and he pushed a 'Covid cure' that... wasn't. Oh and we may have trouble getting enough people in the USA vaccinated because of lack of trust. He lied. A LOT. The divisiveness of his bullshit has us doing things like bringing guns to the capital cos haircuts are a constitutionally protected right, but NOT carrying that same zeal ahead to deal with police brutality against American Citizens. The Trump Administration's sabotage of the Postal System, all fueled by fears that main-in votes would secure Biden's victory (give them credit. they were right on that one...), endangered Americans who rely on parcel deliveries. The fallout from that forced more in-person voting to happen in the middle of a fucking pandemic. He pushed for reopening when we weren't ready, putting YOU in danger. He held maskless rallies. Trump himself, the man the American Government considers its highest priority to protect, came down with it as well as his family, his staffers, his cohorts, a bunch of generals at the Pentagon.... Oh and what's he doing right now? Well Biden's actually doing work on the COVID front right now, meanwhile Trump's doing rallies to support the GOP in the Senate and making illegal phone calls to turn the election in his favor. Now to be fair he did demand a higher payout for the Stimulus... but that was contingent on non-public-safety shit like keeping names of the runners up in the Civil War emblazened on some of our glorious military facilities, oh and retaliation against social media for not spreading the previously mentioned lies. We are finally getting a stimulus ... months overdue and of a horribly insufficient amount. Now we can quibble about who's really at fault for that, and maybe you'd even defeat me in that battle, but you won't be walking away saying: "That demonstrates the Trump Administration's wonderful leadership during the pandemic!"

      I have to ask, why don't you have at least a little skepticism with the Trump Administration, especially after Conway referred to 'COVID-19' as the 19th mutation of the virus? I mean she was either wrong (not an encouraging sign when speaking on behalf of the government....) or she was intentionally mis-speaking to turn you against the WHO (ummm... making YOU stupider so you'll hate the WH's enemies...?) ... that wasn't a red flag? Him getting his son sick, THAT didn't make you want to look a lil more deeply into it? The priority of the supreme court pick over gov't assistance from the pandemic, THAT didn't make you question the WH's official word? I'm just curious cos "nuh uh, hospital ship!" never had a lot of range even in the most optimistic of puffery.

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      • (Score: 2) by ChrisMaple on Wednesday January 06 2021, @05:43AM

        by ChrisMaple (6964) on Wednesday January 06 2021, @05:43AM (#1095500)

        now the fashionable thing to do is get into groups of people, maskless, and storm shops that have a mask policy

        I've never heard of that. It must be a California phenomenon, where idiocy is treasured.