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posted by martyb on Wednesday January 06 2021, @10:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the stock-up-on-popcorn! dept.

2021-01-07 14:44:44 UTC: UPDATE (See below the fold).

Pro-Trump rioters breach the US Capitol on historic day in Congress:

Supporters of President Donald Trump breached the US Capitol on Wednesday while Congress was meeting to certify the Electoral College's votes for president and vice president.

The Capitol has been put on lockdown and the certification vote has been paused. Vice President Mike Pence was evacuated from the building. House and Senate leadership is safe and in undisclosed locations, according to a person familiar with the situation.

Congress' counting of electoral votes is typically little more than an afterthought. But this joint session was expected to be a contentious affair that would last late into the evening and possibly on Thursday. Some Republicans are objecting to the count and delaying the inevitable certification of President-elect Joe Biden's win.

Also at AlJazeera (In Pictures: Pro-trump mob storms US Capitol building) and c|net (Mob storms Capitol forcing halt of election vote count).

[2021-01-06 22:33:53 UTC; UPDATE] NOTE: This is a chaotic time.

The Electoral College votes are currently being confirmed and tallied. Runoff votes in Georgia are being tallied and the results may swing the balance of power in the US Senate. The Georgia secretary of state [has been] relocated from [State] Capitol for security reasons. Mitch McConnell goes off on Trump. Pro-Trump reporter gloats over access to fleeing Hill staffer's computer. And Trump hand-picks replacement for Atlanta's US attorney after surprise resignation.

Let's please try and keep the discussion civil.

Also, please be polite and share your popcorn!

[Updates Begin]:

(1) Fox News reports Biden's Electoral College victory certified -- hours after Capitol chaos:

The U.S. Congress early Thursday certified the Electoral College vote that gave Democrat Joe Biden his presidential victory -- after a day in Washington that was marred by pro-Trump protesters storming the U.S. Capitol.

Vice President Mike Pence, who had announced he would not overturn the will of voters, confirmed the Biden victory at 3:41 a.m. ET.

Lawmakers had returned to the chamber in an act of defiance, with some Republicans who initially vowed to challenge states' results due to voter fraud concerns announcing they'd instead vote to certify.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., called the breach of the Capitol a "failed insurrection," adding that those who "tried to disrupt our democracy" had not succeeded.

(2) President Trump "Responds" via Staffer's Twitter Account after His Account was Suspended:

Dan Scavino 🇺🇸 🦅@DanScavino:

Statement by President Donald J. Trump on the Electoral Certification:

"Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th. I have always said we would continue our...

Dan Scavino 🇺🇸 🦅@DanScavino:

...fight to ensure that only legal votes were counted. While this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history, it's only the beginning of our fight to Make America Great Again!"

(3) Facebook, Twitter lock Trump's account following video addressing Washington rioters:

  • Twitter and Facebook on Wednesday said they would lock the account of President Donald Trump after he continued to make false claims about the results of the 2020 U.S. presidential election.
  • Facebook, YouTube and Twitter on Wednesday removed a video by President Donald Trump addressing Washington rioters.
  • Meanwhile, calls are mounting for Twitter and Facebook to suspend Trump's accounts.

(4) The Associated Press has called the results for the Georgia Senate elections: both Democratic candidates defeated their GOP opponents:

With projected victories in the twin races of Warnock and Ossoff, President-elect Joe Biden will have the narrowest majority in the Senate, with both parties holding 50-50 seats apiece, allowing the tie-breaking vote to be cast by Vice President-elect Kamala Harris.

Also at The New York Times.


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  • (Score: 2, Troll) by Reziac on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:04AM (31 children)

    by Reziac (2489) on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:04AM (#1096214) Homepage

    Was pretty easy to spot the professional agitator before they broke in (he's the guy with the bullhorn telling folks they can "get inside"). And apparently some of the invaders have since been ID'd as Antifa. Who knew that Antifa had become Trump supporters!!

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:19AM (21 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:19AM (#1096226) Journal

    Reziac - I would like to believe Antifa broke the windows etc. But, let's just stick to facts. To make me believe that Antifa was there, someone is going to have to give up some really good citations. Got a link to anything halfway credible?

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Reziac on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:30AM (2 children)

      by Reziac (2489) on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:30AM (#1096236) Homepage

      Was per one of the congresscritters who stood to support the objection; said they'd been ID'd as Antifa per facial recognition (meaning they're known to LE). I can't put names and faces together (mighta been Gaetz) but it was on the chambers live feed an hour ago.

      And having watched a closeup of the guy at the doors with the bullhorn, exhorting folks that "we can get inside" -- to my eye he just screamed professional agitator. So the above was no surprise.

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      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:40AM (1 child)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:40AM (#1096247) Journal

        Ohkay - but if you don't mind I'll just put "suspected" in front of those claims for now. I've watched a lot of video today, and I've heard those claims, but I've seen nothing to convince me that the claims are true. If there is facial recognition establishing those facts, I'll be happy to see/hear it.

        • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @07:37AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @07:37AM (#1096332)

          Runaway? Asking for evidence and proof? Has he become a traitor to the traitors, or is he just trying to save his own ass, like Arkansas's idea of a Senator, Tom Cotton?

    • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Reziac on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:40AM (8 children)

      by Reziac (2489) on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:40AM (#1096246) Homepage

      Legit? I dunno, but just came down a feed...

      https://is2.4chan.org/pol/1609968840847.png [4chan.org]

      You'd think folks would learn about these selfies...

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      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:02AM (7 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:02AM (#1096265) Journal

        Interesting . . .

        Thanks for that, but I'm not sure it's convincing. This is 4chan after all. There are plenty of people over there who can put you and me in the House Chambers, without much effort.

           

        • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:12AM (3 children)

          by Reziac (2489) on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:12AM (#1096270) Homepage

          Buffalo hat man is a known regular at BLM events, plenty of photos of him elsewhere.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @07:03AM (2 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @07:03AM (#1096324)

            That attempt is even worse. Buffalo hat guy is all over photos from Trump rallies.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:08PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:08PM (#1096530)

              I can do you one better. Search for QAnon Shaman.

            • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Friday January 08 2021, @02:26AM

              by Reziac (2489) on Friday January 08 2021, @02:26AM (#1096805) Homepage

              And climate change rallies. The guy seems to be an equal opportunity nut.

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        • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @08:35AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @08:35AM (#1096375)

          Good for you. That guy is no other than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Heimbach [wikipedia.org]

          • (Score: 2) by Reziac on Saturday January 09 2021, @01:42AM (1 child)

            by Reziac (2489) on Saturday January 09 2021, @01:42AM (#1097259) Homepage

            Ah, the giant false flag op guy. All is explained.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @08:32AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday January 09 2021, @08:32AM (#1097355)

              Keep trying, you'll deflect blame yet.

    • (Score: 2, Informative) by fustakrakich on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:56AM (8 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:56AM (#1096259) Journal

      To make me believe that Antifa was there, someone is going to have to give up some really good citations.

      Why? Antifa, proud boys, tiki torchers, klansmen... all the same reactionary right wing bunch, working for Trump. Of course they were there. And it turns out, the cops let 'em in, opened the gates and led the parade inside.

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      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:57AM (5 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:57AM (#1096261) Journal

        Music is nice - but the musician who only plays one little tune gets tiresome.

        • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:35AM (3 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:35AM (#1096279)

          Especially when it's on a tuba.

          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:41AM (2 children)

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:41AM (#1096285) Journal

            That's a TUBA? Christ, he's a worse player than I thought. Sounded like a flute to me . . .

        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:45AM

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:45AM (#1096290) Journal

          :-) At least I play more than one note

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      • (Score: 3, Funny) by Thexalon on Thursday January 07 2021, @07:15PM (1 child)

        by Thexalon (636) on Thursday January 07 2021, @07:15PM (#1096614)

        Antifa, proud boys, tiki torchers, klansmen... all the same reactionary right wing bunch, working for Trump.

        I'm very confused as to how you connected the left-wing anti-fascists (the literal definition of "Anti-fa", which isn't an organization but an ideology) with the fascist groups who were among other things punching antifa people in the face outside my state's capitol yesterday.

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        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday January 07 2021, @07:49PM

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday January 07 2021, @07:49PM (#1096642) Journal

          There is no "left" in American politics. And only right wing authoritarians benefit from rioting and property destruction, serves to rile up the conservative voter, ready to reelect the Supreme Chancellor with emergency powers. Standard stuff. Antifa is just as fascist as the rest, as destructive militants generally are.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:24AM (8 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @04:24AM (#1096232)

    The "gentleman" farting in Pelosi's chair did not strike me as an Antifa guy. He was in his 50 and working class, while Antifa usually recruit from the young with wealthy parents.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:19AM (7 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:19AM (#1096271) Journal

      You mean privileged young white people like this guy? I'll remind you that stereotypes can be useful, but don't allow them to mislead you. Antifa has it's share of maturing people.

      https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2020/09/04/breaking-man-who-gunned-down-trump-supporter-in-portland-is-killed-when-marshalls-try-to-arrest-him-n887239 [pjmedia.com]

      • (Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:37AM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:37AM (#1096283)

        "Maturing", like that guy fresh from a 12 year child sex conviction, plus a 4 year extension for violating parole, who somehow showed up in Kenosha to get iced by Kyle.

        • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:43AM (5 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday January 07 2021, @05:43AM (#1096287) Journal

          Did Kyle ice him, or did Kyle light him up? We need to be precise with our terms here!

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @06:16AM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @06:16AM (#1096307)

            You are a traitor, Kyle is a murderer. Glad we could clear that up.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @07:40AM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @07:40AM (#1096334)

              Kyle is a double murderer. Hope he fries. Or gets injected. Or however they execute people in Wisconsin, after the Rain of Scott Walker.

              • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @02:06PM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @02:06PM (#1096441)

                They don't charge people for self defense in most of the country. Stand your ground laws make physical confrontation unwise...

                • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 08 2021, @01:02AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 08 2021, @01:02AM (#1096779)

                  They don't charge people for self defense in most of the country. Stand your ground laws make physical confrontation unwise...

                  Stand your ground doesn't apply. He was clearly trying to run away, making chasing and attacking him assault and attempted murder. Clear self-defense in any state without any need for "stand your ground".

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @07:10PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @07:10PM (#1097944)

                    Yeah, after he myrdered someone. You don't to claim self-defense when people are apprehending you for murder.