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2021-01-07 14:44:44 UTC: UPDATE (See below the fold).
Pro-Trump rioters breach the US Capitol on historic day in Congress:
Supporters of President Donald Trump breached the US Capitol on Wednesday while Congress was meeting to certify the Electoral College's votes for president and vice president.
The Capitol has been put on lockdown and the certification vote has been paused. Vice President Mike Pence was evacuated from the building. House and Senate leadership is safe and in undisclosed locations, according to a person familiar with the situation.
Congress' counting of electoral votes is typically little more than an afterthought. But this joint session was expected to be a contentious affair that would last late into the evening and possibly on Thursday. Some Republicans are objecting to the count and delaying the inevitable certification of President-elect Joe Biden's win.
Also at AlJazeera (In Pictures: Pro-trump mob storms US Capitol building) and c|net (Mob storms Capitol forcing halt of election vote count).
[2021-01-06 22:33:53 UTC; UPDATE] NOTE: This is a chaotic time.
The Electoral College votes are currently being confirmed and tallied. Runoff votes in Georgia are being tallied and the results may swing the balance of power in the US Senate. The Georgia secretary of state [has been] relocated from [State] Capitol for security reasons. Mitch McConnell goes off on Trump. Pro-Trump reporter gloats over access to fleeing Hill staffer's computer. And Trump hand-picks replacement for Atlanta's US attorney after surprise resignation.
Let's please try and keep the discussion civil.
Also, please be polite and share your popcorn!
[Updates Begin]:
(1) Fox News reports Biden's Electoral College victory certified -- hours after Capitol chaos:
The U.S. Congress early Thursday certified the Electoral College vote that gave Democrat Joe Biden his presidential victory -- after a day in Washington that was marred by pro-Trump protesters storming the U.S. Capitol.
Vice President Mike Pence, who had announced he would not overturn the will of voters, confirmed the Biden victory at 3:41 a.m. ET.
Lawmakers had returned to the chamber in an act of defiance, with some Republicans who initially vowed to challenge states' results due to voter fraud concerns announcing they'd instead vote to certify.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., called the breach of the Capitol a "failed insurrection," adding that those who "tried to disrupt our democracy" had not succeeded.
(2) President Trump "Responds" via Staffer's Twitter Account after His Account was Suspended:
Statement by President Donald J. Trump on the Electoral Certification:
"Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th. I have always said we would continue our...
...fight to ensure that only legal votes were counted. While this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history, it's only the beginning of our fight to Make America Great Again!"
(3) Facebook, Twitter lock Trump's account following video addressing Washington rioters:
- Twitter and Facebook on Wednesday said they would lock the account of President Donald Trump after he continued to make false claims about the results of the 2020 U.S. presidential election.
- Facebook, YouTube and Twitter on Wednesday removed a video by President Donald Trump addressing Washington rioters.
- Meanwhile, calls are mounting for Twitter and Facebook to suspend Trump's accounts.
(4) The Associated Press has called the results for the Georgia Senate elections: both Democratic candidates defeated their GOP opponents:
With projected victories in the twin races of Warnock and Ossoff, President-elect Joe Biden will have the narrowest majority in the Senate, with both parties holding 50-50 seats apiece, allowing the tie-breaking vote to be cast by Vice President-elect Kamala Harris.
Also at The New York Times.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by janrinok on Thursday January 07 2021, @07:40PM (1 child)
There are so many errors here I don't know where to start, but I'll give it a try:
I am not offended by your comments, they are no different that many you have made before. You are just plain wrong. People are allowed to express their views whether you like them or not. It is not the editors job to control comments - that role belongs to the community and you have been given the tools to carry out that job.
You seem to think that because I did not censor comments that I agreed with them. Wrong. If people are talking rubbish it isn't the editors' role to correct them, it is yours. Argue your case, prove that they are wrong with factual references. What you must not do is try to silence them. Everyone has the right to speak.
Deciding what is fake news and what isn't is a near impossible task. I am not in the USA. I do not know the personalities. You live there and you do know them. IT IS YOUR JOB to argue against fake news and prove that the statements are false. Again you are telling editors what they should do. That is NOT YOUR PREROGATIVE. Editors have to comply with the editorial rules and other constraints to process stories for publication on the front page. We are not here to do what you appear to be incapable of doing - and that is arguing your case through discussion.
I don't chastise Aristarchus for his comments - I chastise him for his submissions. We have discussed his claims on several occasions. Repeat submissions on essentially the same topic are unwanted. The editors are supposed to be finding new submissions that will generate a discussion, not picking those that just reiterate the same claims each time although quoting different names. Aristarchus can say what he likes in the comments, but the editors are responsible for the front page. We read every one of his submissions - trust me it isn't easy - but if there is nothing new in them to discuss they will be rejected. Why you cannot understand this is beyond me. Is it perhaps because he says something that you agree with? Well tough - he has a journal in which he can publish anything that he wants to publish and if his submissions are not worthy of the front page that is where they should go.
Yes, you have fake news and propaganda in the USA. You currently have a broken country. You cannot see a way to compromise and accommodate each other - you are an American, sort it out! But do not try to use this platform to push your own views other than in your comments when you will get the response that the community believes that you deserve. Some might agree and others might not.
Runaway's submissions - not his comments - are based on news reports from recognised sources and are usually easily placed in the appropriate Topic. If you don't like what those sources say disagree in the comments. That is how this site works. Do your homework. Look up the submissions from Runaway and Aristarchus and compare the variety of topics that they each make and and the resultant acceptance rates.
You have been telling us that the site will not survive for several years now - yet still we are here. The most likely reason that this site will close is the lack of people who are willing to put a little effort into the supporting the site in a practical manner. Fortunately we have a handful of staff who are willing to work harder than anyone should be expected to do who keep this site rolling. And rather than thanking them you like to tell them what you think they should be doing. Keep that lecture to yourself and if you are now offended - hard luck.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @08:18PM
So much wrong with your reply I don't know where to begin. I'll just say that you've completely missed the point and misconstrued what people are saying. Your faux outrage or plain denials of being offended belie your own cognitive dissonance. I'm glad near civil war in the US was finally a line too far for you. Had to be somewhere.