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posted by martyb on Wednesday January 06 2021, @10:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the stock-up-on-popcorn! dept.

2021-01-07 14:44:44 UTC: UPDATE (See below the fold).

Pro-Trump rioters breach the US Capitol on historic day in Congress:

Supporters of President Donald Trump breached the US Capitol on Wednesday while Congress was meeting to certify the Electoral College's votes for president and vice president.

The Capitol has been put on lockdown and the certification vote has been paused. Vice President Mike Pence was evacuated from the building. House and Senate leadership is safe and in undisclosed locations, according to a person familiar with the situation.

Congress' counting of electoral votes is typically little more than an afterthought. But this joint session was expected to be a contentious affair that would last late into the evening and possibly on Thursday. Some Republicans are objecting to the count and delaying the inevitable certification of President-elect Joe Biden's win.

Also at AlJazeera (In Pictures: Pro-trump mob storms US Capitol building) and c|net (Mob storms Capitol forcing halt of election vote count).

[2021-01-06 22:33:53 UTC; UPDATE] NOTE: This is a chaotic time.

The Electoral College votes are currently being confirmed and tallied. Runoff votes in Georgia are being tallied and the results may swing the balance of power in the US Senate. The Georgia secretary of state [has been] relocated from [State] Capitol for security reasons. Mitch McConnell goes off on Trump. Pro-Trump reporter gloats over access to fleeing Hill staffer's computer. And Trump hand-picks replacement for Atlanta's US attorney after surprise resignation.

Let's please try and keep the discussion civil.

Also, please be polite and share your popcorn!

[Updates Begin]:

(1) Fox News reports Biden's Electoral College victory certified -- hours after Capitol chaos:

The U.S. Congress early Thursday certified the Electoral College vote that gave Democrat Joe Biden his presidential victory -- after a day in Washington that was marred by pro-Trump protesters storming the U.S. Capitol.

Vice President Mike Pence, who had announced he would not overturn the will of voters, confirmed the Biden victory at 3:41 a.m. ET.

Lawmakers had returned to the chamber in an act of defiance, with some Republicans who initially vowed to challenge states' results due to voter fraud concerns announcing they'd instead vote to certify.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., called the breach of the Capitol a "failed insurrection," adding that those who "tried to disrupt our democracy" had not succeeded.

(2) President Trump "Responds" via Staffer's Twitter Account after His Account was Suspended:

Dan Scavino 🇺🇸 🦅@DanScavino:

Statement by President Donald J. Trump on the Electoral Certification:

"Even though I totally disagree with the outcome of the election, and the facts bear me out, nevertheless there will be an orderly transition on January 20th. I have always said we would continue our...

Dan Scavino 🇺🇸 🦅@DanScavino:

...fight to ensure that only legal votes were counted. While this represents the end of the greatest first term in presidential history, it's only the beginning of our fight to Make America Great Again!"

(3) Facebook, Twitter lock Trump's account following video addressing Washington rioters:

  • Twitter and Facebook on Wednesday said they would lock the account of President Donald Trump after he continued to make false claims about the results of the 2020 U.S. presidential election.
  • Facebook, YouTube and Twitter on Wednesday removed a video by President Donald Trump addressing Washington rioters.
  • Meanwhile, calls are mounting for Twitter and Facebook to suspend Trump's accounts.

(4) The Associated Press has called the results for the Georgia Senate elections: both Democratic candidates defeated their GOP opponents:

With projected victories in the twin races of Warnock and Ossoff, President-elect Joe Biden will have the narrowest majority in the Senate, with both parties holding 50-50 seats apiece, allowing the tie-breaking vote to be cast by Vice President-elect Kamala Harris.

Also at The New York Times.


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Magic Oddball on Wednesday January 06 2021, @11:07PM (17 children)

    by Magic Oddball (3847) on Wednesday January 06 2021, @11:07PM (#1095929) Journal

    Look at the photos/videos again — most of the people there appear to be in their thirties & forties, nowhere near old enough to be Boomers.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 06 2021, @11:12PM (15 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 06 2021, @11:12PM (#1095933)

    crafoo has been spouting alt-right shit for years now, he is just trying to minimize so he doesn't have to feel guilty or admit the rightwing nutjobs are exactly as rightwing nutjobby as we've been saying. Hell, he probably is an alt-right nutjob!

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by crafoo on Wednesday January 06 2021, @11:20PM (14 children)

      by crafoo (6639) on Wednesday January 06 2021, @11:20PM (#1095943)

      OK sure. Go ahead and call me a nazi, bigot, sexist, whatever. I don't give a shit. Trump was always just a 4-8 year delay plan. I'm cool with just 4. I value freedom, not equality. Whatever box you want to put me in is fine. IF you want to have a real conversation we can do that too, but you'll have to stop the juvenile name-calling.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 06 2021, @11:30PM (5 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 06 2021, @11:30PM (#1095954)

        We will stop the juvenile name calling when you stop pushing fake news propganda bullshit and grapple with reality like Trump being a criminal that must be sent to prison if you have any hope for democracy. No matter what you think about the original charges, his obstruction of justice is public knowledge and is a crime.

        If you can handle reality then we can have a discussion where I listen to your points that are hopefully not rightwing lies and you can listen to mine. If we can't agree on what is verifiable reality then all you will ever get is more juvenile name calling because I will not waste my time on liars or fools.

        So, can you admit that Trump obstructed justice at the least and should face punishment for his abuses of power? I'm giving you a softball here.

        • (Score: 2, Touché) by crafoo on Thursday January 07 2021, @02:24PM (4 children)

          by crafoo (6639) on Thursday January 07 2021, @02:24PM (#1096447)

          You are clearly very emotional and upset. I won't even begin to address the various name calling and personal attacks in your screed. I noticed that you presented no evidence or references, only mass media talking points. Is that all that is inside your head?

          You very much sound like a woman, although you are posting anon. Why is that, do you think?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 08 2021, @01:02AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 08 2021, @01:02AM (#1096777)

            Because you're a pitiful excuse for a man that can't handle criticism and thinks that calling me a woman is an insult? Nice to know for sure you're a misogynistic douche, but that was a pretty safe guess before you clinched it there.

            I'll do the hard work for you:

            If you can handle reality then we can have a discussion where I listen to your points that are hopefully not rightwing lies ... I will not waste my time on liars or fools.

            There, the sum total of my name calling in the comment you replied to. Also, mass media talking points? Wrong, I was able to piece that together all by myself when Trump publicly obstructed the investigations into his crimes. Abusing his power to interfere with an investigation into his activities is obstruction of justice.

            Weird that you call me emotional, that post was distinctly un-emotional and I was trying to extend an olive branch on how we could move forward. Clearly you are the emotional one if you took those quoted bits so personally, and your logic center is overridden by the existential crisis you face when you have no answer to what is blindingly obvious. You were banking on Trump winning again and having his corrupt cronies continue to protect him, and for the GOP to continue block his impeachment. That has now failed so you're stuck having to grapple with reality.

            Best of luck with coming to terms with the facts, please don't go crazy and murder people. Sorry for hurting your feefees /s

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 08 2021, @03:08AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday January 08 2021, @03:08AM (#1096829)

              Yes dear.

            • (Score: 3, Touché) by crafoo on Saturday January 09 2021, @02:47AM (1 child)

              by crafoo (6639) on Saturday January 09 2021, @02:47AM (#1097278)

              It's times like these when the title "anonymous coward" really makes good sense.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @07:46PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday January 10 2021, @07:46PM (#1097952)

                Stay shitty crafoo, no one is gonna love you except other assholes. I'm sure you'll complain about cancel culture when you get fired for participating in federal crimes.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 06 2021, @11:53PM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday January 06 2021, @11:53PM (#1095973)

        It was your sort - weak-kneed, rationalizing bootlickers - that Hitler managed to rule Germany and pull the stunt he did.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @12:33AM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @12:33AM (#1096032)

          Usually to be a bootlicker one would have to side with an authoritarian. Please explain how Trump is an authoritarian. No you can't use "HE JUST IS!" or "Orange Man Bad".

          Thank you kindly.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @12:41AM (3 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @12:41AM (#1096038)

            Feeding the troll

            Let's see, the easy answr is "When he had police violently clear protesters and innocent people on private church property for a photo op."

            Plenty of other stuff too, but that one is the ridiculously obvious one that even your brain should be able to process :-)

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @01:17AM (2 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @01:17AM (#1096065)

              Thank you for the comment, please provide more.

              I thought clearing the protesters was Barr's idea and doing. Though I didn't see Trump say it was a bad move.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @03:46AM (1 child)

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @03:46AM (#1096193)

                I fed you once, but glad to see you finally accepting reality :-) Now go do your research like a good little boi.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @03:58AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @03:58AM (#1096206)

                  Fail! I know he's orange and I know it's easy to not provide citations but you can do better.

          • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday January 07 2021, @08:05PM

            by Thexalon (636) on Thursday January 07 2021, @08:05PM (#1096655)

            Please explain how Trump is an authoritarian.

            1. He has ordered government agents to attack his own citizens who weren't breaking any laws.
            2. He has attempted to overthrow election results via force of arms.
            3. He has repeatedly called for police or his supporters to attack, jail, and kill citizens without anything remotely resembling due process of law, including but not limited to his election opponents.
            4. He has openly refused to follow the laws passed by Congress, and pardoned people who have committed crimes at his behest.
            5. He is an avowed friend of other authoritarians, including but not limited to Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un, and King Salman of Saudi Arabia. And they with him.
            6. He has routinely defied lawful actions from the other branches of government, e.g. subpoenas of his financial records.
            7. He basically gave a pep talk to the people planning a terrorist attack on Congress. With every reason to know that's exactly what they were planning on doing.

            Just ask yourself what you'd be saying if Obama had done all of that.

            --
            The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @01:39AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @01:39AM (#1096082)

        crafoo, you fucking nazi sexist bigot! You poinaird! You are flatulent and in general unpleasant to be around! You are full of it! This is all your fault! Bad crafoo, bad! No donut for your Law and Order! If you cannot support equal freedom, you are a nazi. Equality is the precondition of freedom, you idiot! But, if you are such a low intelligence example of the species, perhaps we should prevent you from speaking?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @06:42AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 07 2021, @06:42AM (#1096318)

    My best guess is the #walkaway crowd were mostly the ones motivated to go to this extreme. They are the loudest, most passionate, and most aggressive ones that were speaking at the rallies.

    I'm pretty sure I saw the NYC gym owner that refuses to close down beat some cop shields with a folding chair. Definitely the folding chair pretty sure gym owner guy. That'd be another well motivated individual.

    The motivations of the majority of the conservatives I've seen don't align with storming something like Congress. There was also many cries of "We are not Antifa!" from people next to the building while it was being assaulted.

    Really the majority of the conservatives seem plenty happy to stop at complaining.