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(This is from the first link I found online.)
Derek Chauvin Sentenced to 22.5 Years for George Floyd Murder:
Derek Chauvin, the white former Minneapolis police officer convicted of killing George Floyd, a Black man, was sentenced to 22 and half years in prison Friday.
[...] The 22 1/2-year sentence is 10 years more than the state’s guidelines and Cahill justified the longer sentence citing “aggravating factors”.
In his ruling last month, Cahill found that prosecutors had shown there were four aggravating factors that would allow him to hand down a longer prison term than sentencing guidelines would dictate.
The judge agreed that Chauvin abused his position of trust and authority; that he treated Floyd with particular cruelty by kneeling on his neck for over nine minutes, even as Floyd declared “I can’t breathe”; that he committed the crime as part of a group with three other officers; and that he committed the murder in front of children.
The prosecution had requested Derek Chauvin serve 360 months (30 years) in prison. The defense requested 150 months (12.5 years).
From Wikipedia:
On April 20, 2021, a jury, consisting of six white people and six people of color, found Chauvin guilty on three counts: unintentional second-degree murder; third-degree murder; and second-degree manslaughter
Derek Chauvin, 45, was convicted of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. The jurors deliberated for more than 10 hours over two days before coming to their decision.
Also at: NY Times, NBC News, Newsweek.
Previously:
Police Bodycam Footage Shows George Floyd Arrest in Detail
George Floyd Dead - Officers Fired and Charged - Discuss it Here
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Friday June 25 2021, @11:15PM (28 children)
And, you're being an idiot. Justifiable homicide, plain and simple. If I chased you down the street while beating you over the head with a skateboard, you would grab any weapon you happened to stumble across, and shoot me to death. Try to tell us any different, and you're a damned liar.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 25 2021, @11:27PM (17 children)
No because I wouldn't have even driven there armed and ready to shoot someone.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Friday June 25 2021, @11:47PM (13 children)
So, you're telling me a number of things.
1. Kyle had no right to be in town that night because you say so. Kyle is only as free as you choose to allow him to be, just because.
1.a The rioters have rights that Kyle did not, because you haven't condemned them for being in town, with murder and mayhem on their minds.
2. Possession of a defensive weapon is enough to convict an American citizen of a crime, the 2nd Amendment notwithstanding.
2.a The rioter's possession of weapons appears to be alright in your mind, including the freak who aimed a pistol at Kyle's head.
3. If/when you happen to find yourself in a Shit Hits The Fan situation, you're not especially likely to be a survivor.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 26 2021, @12:36AM (9 children)
(Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Saturday June 26 2021, @12:54AM (8 children)
I agree with that. The rioter's intentions were murder and mayhem, arson, and looting. Kyle stood in their way. The rioters should be on trial, and Kyle should have been given a medal.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 26 2021, @01:34AM (2 children)
As for the rioters: I have absolutely no problem at all with rioters getting arrested and charged the same way rittenhouse did, you'll note that I haven't said one word in defense of them. I don't actually have the authority to sign permission slips for rioters to go out and be violent so bitching to me about them does nothing more than make your like-minded buddies nod their head vigorously while gibbering about how the law should work in their favor cos they're oh-so-righteous. Neither BLM or Antifa, however, are terms interchangeable with the word 'rioter'. Nobody's defending the rioters, you might have actually seen that by now if you would finally develop a lil bit of sophistication with the terms you're using.
When you're really interested in BLM protests ending, and you actually understand what the fuck is going on instead of spouting the regurgitated nonsense that has been refuted a jillion times, you'll become a big fan of doing something to get the cops to cut this shit out. BLM appears when people die, it's a pretty clear pattern. When you say stupid shit like Rittenhouse should get a medal for murder, you're not walking in the direction of things getting better, you're supporting your sports team and perpetuating the game for more innings AND you're weakening the integrity of gun owners in this country. You're gonna need to do a lot better than going "ppl i dont like should be shot!"
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 26 2021, @07:36AM (1 child)
The first person Rittenhouse shot was running away. Yeah, there was some shouting, that's not an imminent threat. You go to a protest, you expect to get shouted at. There's nothing even to question here. It's a murder.
The second shooting is a little more interesting, legally speaking, or morally. Rittenhouse was under attack. Now the reason he was under attack was that he just murdered somebody. Is there a right to self defense if the person you are defending yourself against believes that they are saving innocent bystanders from a potential mass shooter? Or even one who believes (correctly, in this case) that they are apprehending a murderer?
Personally I don't think the right to self defense should be so broad. The person who has provoked the violence should not be able to claim self defense. (Well, they can claim it, it just doesn't mean anything). The determination of who provoked the violence is just a question of fact, albeit one that is obvious in this case.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Saturday June 26 2021, @11:04AM
Wait, wut? If I understand your first sentence correctly, you've somehow got it upside down. The first person shot by Kyle was aggressively chasing after Kyle - Kyle was the person running away. It was a DEFENSIVE shooting on Kyle's part.
Kyle didn't shoot until he ran out of places to run, AND he heard a gunshot, AND his attacker was reaching for his weapon. 100% justifiable on Kyle's part.
(Score: 2) by epitaxial on Saturday June 26 2021, @04:23AM (4 children)
Remind me again what law enforcement powers Kyle had?
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 26 2021, @04:39AM
Vigilantes's power.
Trump deluded them they have all rights to do it. Because "law and ORDER, on my ORDER dammit [theguardian.com]"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 26 2021, @05:28AM (2 children)
1/ The law of self-defense,
and given the outcome;
2/ The law of superior firepower.
(Score: 2) by epitaxial on Saturday June 26 2021, @07:36PM (1 child)
I don't understand these weird masturbatory fantasies about wanting to shoot protestors. Your life must be terribly shallow and frightening to lash out against people with a point of view different from yours.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 27 2021, @05:16AM
I don't have fantasies about shooting protesters, but you have to be a special kind of idiot to chase and attack a guy carrying a rifle. Think of it as evolution in action.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 26 2021, @12:39AM
I'm telling you cops killing black folk is wrong. Loser Trumpster teens killing to support cops killing people is wrong. YOU are wrong, Runaway.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 26 2021, @03:04AM (1 child)
Runaway, you're... SOBER? :)
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday June 26 2021, @06:34PM
He's been stoned out of his hollow rattling gourd on his own jenkem fumes for decades from the sound of it...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 26 2021, @01:05AM (2 children)
Too late, Runaway's been triggered. All that good will from a reasonable opinion on Chauvin is gone.
(Score: 2) by Tork on Saturday June 26 2021, @01:53AM (1 child)
🏳️🌈 Proud Ally 🏳️🌈
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday June 26 2021, @08:38AM
Nice try, Tork. Better luck next time.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by epitaxial on Saturday June 26 2021, @04:21AM (9 children)
Why did you travel to a mob with a weapon in the first place?
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 26 2021, @05:34AM (8 children)
Where you are and why you are there are irrelevant. You have the right to go peaceably about your business. If you are viciously attacked you have the right to defend yourself. It wasn't even a dubious stand-your-ground defense, Kyle was sprinting down the street trying to get away. His assailant was just slightly faster and caught him.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 26 2021, @08:42AM (1 child)
Especially if your business as a radicalized baby-faced incel teen is to shot some fucking antifa! Ya! Hooyah! Kyle went there to kill some coons, or some socialists, or girls that talked back to him! A real man! Or, cowardly asshole trying to impede other's rights to protest. Death penalty is too good for him. Can we bring back the drawing and quartering?
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 26 2021, @10:13AM
You 'tards are going to lose your minds when he's acquitted of all charges. lol.
(Score: 2) by epitaxial on Saturday June 26 2021, @07:30PM (5 children)
You autists always gloss over little things like intent. Oh I'm just out for a midnight stroll with my rifle and a mob happened to appear. The law takes intent into account.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 26 2021, @11:25PM (4 children)
Yes, intent matters. Rittenhouse clearly had the intent to disengage when he ran away. And Rosenbaum clearly had malicious intent when he chased him down the street and caught him. Huber was trying to bash his head in with a skateboard. Grosskreutz has publicly stated he was trying to shoot him with a pistol. Three clear cases of self-defense.
Seriously, have you watched the videos? He is going to be acquitted. If you have seen them, maybe try watching them again, but this time pretend that it is three nasty conservatives chasing and attacking a poor little antifa and see if your perception changes.
(Score: 2) by epitaxial on Monday June 28 2021, @09:08PM (3 children)
If this is a clear case of self defense then why did they bother filing charges?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @02:49AM (2 children)
Appeasement of the mob.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 29 2021, @08:58PM (1 child)
I don't see what the qtarded insurrectionists have to do with this story, pretty sure they'd be happy to let a white supremacist off the hook for murder. You feeling ok bruh?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 30 2021, @01:40AM
No, the other mob. You know, the one that's "mostly peaceful".