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Assange is extradited to die in the US empire.
Wikileaks now puts EVERYTHING online in return.
https://file.wikileaks.org/file/?fbclid=IwAR2U_Evqah_Qy2wxNY12FMqFC5dAFUcZL5Kl4FIfQuMFMp8ssbM46oHXWMI
(Score: 2, Disagree) by isostatic on Wednesday December 22 2021, @02:26PM (15 children)
The UK extradites loads of people to the US, his refusal to go to Sweden on this claim that he'd get extradited was pathetic.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by bradley13 on Wednesday December 22 2021, @02:51PM (6 children)
Yes, it is clear that Assange screwed up re Sweden. Of course, it has always been clear that the man was missing a couple of marbles. I mean, holing up in the Ecuadorian embassy for years and years was not a rational act - he basically put himself in prison.
That said, the US is being it's usual, dictatorial self. There is absolutely nothing to be gained by pursuing Assange. He is not a US citizen, he was never in the US, he did not himself leak any documents. Trying to prosecute him on the flimsy basis they have invented is...pathetic. Just as the US should have long since pardoned Snowdon, just as they should never have locked Manning up in solitary confinement until he went totally loopy, just like CIA "rendition" is ok, if it happens out-of-sight in other countries, just like Guantanamo should never have existed. At some level in the US government, sheer sociopathic insanity is apparently a prerequisite.
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Thexalon on Wednesday December 22 2021, @03:11PM (2 children)
I agree, he made clear his reasons for trying to avoid US custody at all costs: The treatment of Chelsea (nee Bradley) Manning for doing what Assange had done. That treatment, involving a couple of years of solitary confinement for 23.5 hours a day, without clothing or books or anything except a bed, all before any trial or conviction had occurred, was considered torture by a lot of organizations (e.g. Amnesty International and the UN Human Rights Council) who had looked into it and specialize in that sort of thing. This was also right around the time that Gitmo was operating in full force complete with the war crime of waterboarding, and there was a recently-exposed international system of "black sites" where people the US government didn't like were tortured, and there was zero guarantee that Assange wouldn't end up in there.
There's been a pretty clear reason the whole time why the Powers-That-Be in the USA want Assange in jail for a very long time (or better yet from their point of view, dead). And that reason is that the stuff he published embarrassed them, and they want to create a deterrent for anyone else thinking of doing the same thing.
If Assange had been living in the Middle East, he probably would have been hit with a drone strike a long time ago, and if he'd been not white and in the USA at the time he probably would have been shot and killed in a "tragic accident" or something, but he was a white guy in Europe so they decided they had to try to make going after him look all legitimate-like.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @07:42AM
Look, no surprize, the USA shits it pants and abandons its precious Constitution on a regular basis. And nothing happens. And the patriotism barrage continues at volume 11 and everyone in America forgets and believes in the integrity and honor of the US Military and saving Western civilization.
(Score: 2) by ChrisMaple on Thursday December 23 2021, @05:02PM
Manning is insane. Claiming an ability to commit suicide with clothing, of course clothing was removed.
Some people can't resist the temptation to poke the bear, and act surprised when clawed to death.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @08:15PM
Well, his choices weren't all that great:
1. Small office in the Ecuadorian embassy.
2. Epstein.
3. Guantanamo.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @08:03AM (1 child)
She.
Oh? Tell that to the Jews queers socialists etc who survived WWII Germany that way.
You think his assessment that he'd be killed in transit or in supermax is incorrect, maybe? I think he has the agency to make his own risk assessments, and your armchair quarterbacking will matter only if YOU are ever to be extradited somewhere.
For whatever other foibles and failings he may have, Assange choosing an Ecuadorian embassy over a USA jail ... IDK if you've seen the interiors of embassies and jails, but I'd sure as fuck make the same decision he did.
Yet somehow you are +5 insightful? Boggling.
(Score: 2) by HammeredGlass on Thursday December 23 2021, @11:54AM
"She"
Nope.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by bussdriver on Wednesday December 22 2021, @03:43PM (1 child)
If you paid attention, you would realize Sweden was a sham setup to get him extradited; his mistake was in not immediately fleeing the UK... for the short time period he had before realizing the USA was going to flex it's power and trample rights/laws etc. They at one point even forced the UK into almost breaking international law and forcibly invading an embassy to get him. They already forced an unprecedented Interpol warrant for him; when he was IN SWEDEN they dropped charges and let him go... it wasn't until they could bribe a politician to go after him-- for a "crime" that had been thrown out of their court system previously but still existed on the books (as many laws the courts kill remain on paper; functionally killed since you need courts to recognize them.)
The fact that the USA extradited him just as he said all along proves he was correct the whole time; and the USA did do as the Sweden excuse was coming to an end (Sweden's case has been over a while now.)
Then you have the CIA leak about how they would destroy wikileaks and make an example of him... and basically went according to plan so that leak must have been real or by somebody who knows the playbook.
(Score: 2) by isostatic on Saturday December 25 2021, @08:40AM
Yet here we are with him extradited having never gone to Sweden.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22 2021, @07:22PM (5 children)
He should have gone to Russia.
The fact that Russia is the place to go to escape U.S. tyranny makes the U.S. look bad.
The fact that Russia, and not the U.K., is the place to go to escape unjust extradition to U.S. tyranny also makes the U.K. look bad.
Russia actually looks good in all this?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday December 22 2021, @07:34PM (2 children)
Times do change. It's not happening in the near future, but China may one day be freer than the US/UK/Western world.
(Score: 3, Informative) by NickM on Thursday December 23 2021, @01:13AM (1 child)
I a master of typographic, grammatical and miscellaneous errors !
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @03:03AM
That was Runaway's point.
(Score: 2) by number11 on Wednesday December 22 2021, @08:54PM
No, Russia doesn't look particularly good in all this. The fact that Russia will probably give you refuge if you've poked Uncle Sam in the eye with a stick (and not the Russian Bear) doesn't make it a great place. Just, sometimes, a better place than SuperMax. If Assange had also been publishing stuff re Russia, they'd have invited him to have a nice cup of tea, or maybe to enjoy the view from a 7th floor balcony.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23 2021, @02:01PM
More neutrally, Russia and China are the two main powers that resist U.S. influence. If you're going to make an escape from the grasp of the U.S., or set up your illegal piracy web site, you should probably gravitate towards their spheres of influence in Asia.