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Buckingham Palace has announced that Queen Elizabeth II has died.
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It's not reality that's important, but how you perceive things.
(Score: 2) by PiMuNu on Sunday September 11 2022, @01:13PM (2 children)
I agree but historically, it hasn't always worked out like that. In 1642 the reason why Cromwell and Fairfax were buddies during the interregnum - between them they had the army sewn up, so that whatever stuff the puritans and other factions threw at them, at the end of the day they could (and did) fall back on the support of the army (against the interest of the King).
If you look up the history of the interregnum, it is basically Cromwell cycling through different approaches to forming a government in order to find any system which is remotely viable, and largely failing. He was capable enough to keep on top of things, when he died no one knew what to do and put his feckless son in charge - at which point Monck, a senior general, decided things were a mess and went to Charles II (son of the beheaded king, hanging out in France) and asked him to sort it out. Once again, it was the army which decided, this time for the king. In 1688 it was (arguably) the defection of John Churchill, head of the army, to the invading Prince William, as well as James II being a prat, that swung things against the Stuart monarchy, against the king but for his son in law.
Very interesting period, well worth looking into.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Sunday September 11 2022, @05:54PM
The reason that the Oath of Allegiance is written the way it is is precisely because it was written after Cromwell and others, and it reflects the relationship between the Monarch, Parliament and the people.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 13 2022, @04:48AM
That was then, this is now.
If Ms Truss stood up and said "Parliament has voted. We're going to become a Republic. Soldiers go and arrest the Monarch and seize all the royal property.", then the person in The Tower for treason at the end of the day isn't going to be Charlie.