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posted by takyon on Saturday February 04 2023, @10:48PM   Printer-friendly
from the pop! dept.

China balloon: US shoots down airship over Atlantic

The US has shot down a giant Chinese balloon that it says has been spying on key military sites across America.

The Department of Defense confirmed its fighter jets brought down the balloon over US territorial waters.

Three airports were shut and airspace was closed off the coast of North and South Carolina as the military carried out the operation on Saturday.

Footage on US TV networks showed the balloon falling to the sea after a small explosion.

An F-22 jet fighter engaged the high-altitude balloon with one missile - an AIM-9X Sidewinder - and it went down about six nautical miles off the US coast at 14:39 EST (19:39 GMT), a defence official told reporters.

US President Joe Biden had been under pressure to shoot the balloon down since defence officials first announced they were tracking it on Thursday.

Second balloon spotted over Latin America:

On Friday, the Pentagon said a second Chinese spy balloon had been spotted - this time over Latin America with reported sightings over Costa Rica and Venezuela.

See also:

US downs Chinese balloon, a flashpoint in US-China tensions
From China to Big Sky: The Balloon That Unnerved the White House
3 Navy Warships, FBI Now Hunting for Wreckage of Chinese Spy Balloon off South Carolina
Biden's 'Sputnik moment': Is China's spy balloon political warfare?

 
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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by driverless on Sunday February 05 2023, @05:50AM (5 children)

    by driverless (4770) on Sunday February 05 2023, @05:50AM (#1290338)

    The whole story is pretty fishy. There are special carveouts in aviation law for balloons because they can't be steered, so how did this one magically fly over lots of sensitive US military facilities? And given that you could see it from the ground and pretty much the whole world was being informed about its progress it's got to be the least effective spying tool ever. If it was really packed full of Top Sikrit commie spying gear would they really float it straight into the hands of US analysts?

    I'd really love to know what really happened here, rather than the random speculation and fancy Tora Bora tunnel kingdom-style diagrams where people get to invent whatever magic capabilities they feel like.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by toddestan on Sunday February 05 2023, @07:56AM (2 children)

    by toddestan (4982) on Sunday February 05 2023, @07:56AM (#1290344)

    Balloons can't be steered directly, but you can control where they go to some extent by changing altitude and catching wind streams moving in different directions. If that good enough to take it on a tour of a bunch of sensitive US military facilities, that I don't know.

    If you ask me, it was more of a test by China to see how and if the US reacted.

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by driverless on Sunday February 05 2023, @08:15AM

      by driverless (4770) on Sunday February 05 2023, @08:15AM (#1290346)

      I reckon it was an attempt by Aliexpress to compete with Amazon's drone delivery system. I bet when they pick up the pieces it'll be a consignment of fish pillows, 10,000mAh 18650s, toilet seat night lights, and fake poo.

    • (Score: 2) by mcgrew on Sunday February 05 2023, @07:16PM

      by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Sunday February 05 2023, @07:16PM (#1290387) Homepage Journal

      The government fellow on the news this morning said it had four fans to steer it.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Monday February 06 2023, @04:52PM (1 child)

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Monday February 06 2023, @04:52PM (#1290479) Journal
    • (Score: 2) by driverless on Tuesday February 07 2023, @03:15AM

      by driverless (4770) on Tuesday February 07 2023, @03:15AM (#1290554)

      I'm still puzzled by the whole thing. The entire world knew about it so it's the least secret spying mission ever. China knew it was effectively handing everything in/on/under the balloon to the US government for analysis so they'd had to have used decades-old non-sensitive tech in it, meaning they'd get very low-grade whatever it was they were after. The thing moves about half as fast as a heavily sedated sloth and is clearly visible so people would have hours of advance notice to throw a tarp over anything they didn't want the balloon to see, beyond the things that you could see anyway on Google Earth. And it's at best marginally maneuverable, you can nudge a balloon in a certain direction provided there's little to no wind but not much beyond that.

      And from the US side, they didn't shoot it down for so long because they were afraid it might land on something? To a first-order approximation a lot of the US between a strip down the east and west coasts is empty, there's thousands of square miles over which they could have shot it down without hitting someone. Shit, a friend of mine said they could even use his farm for it (South Dakota), unless they happen by a million-to-one chance to hit his house or barn there's nothing on there except scattered cows, and that's not even counting the vast tracts of absolute nothing in places like Nevada. Drove down one of the lesser-used roads that comes out near Tonopah some years ago and for the entire three-hour drive we didn't see one single living thing, and that was somewhere that actually had a road through it.