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posted by janrinok on Monday October 12 2015, @09:20AM   Printer-friendly
from the that's-a-lot-of-rogue-engineers dept.

Four More Companies Caught Cheating Emissions Standards

From The Guardian :

Mercedes-Benz, Honda, Mazda and Mitsubishi have joined the growing list of manufacturers whose diesel cars are known to emit significantly more pollution on the road than in regulatory tests, according to data obtained by the Guardian.

In more realistic on-road tests, some Honda models emitted six times the regulatory limit of NOx pollution while some unnamed 4x4 models had 20 times the NOx limit coming out of their exhaust pipes.

"The issue is a systemic one" across the industry, said Nick Molden, whose company Emissions Analytics tested the cars. The Guardian revealed last week that diesel cars from Renault, Nissan, Hyundai, Citroen, Fiat, Volvo and Jeep all pumped out significantly more NOx in more realistic driving conditions. NOx pollution is at illegal levels in many parts of the UK and is believed to have caused many thousands of premature deaths and billions of pounds in health costs.

The article goes on to state that the toxic emissions levels are anywhere from 1.5 to 6 times higher in road use than in the lab tests. Of the 200 cars tested only five had emissions levels that matched their test results. This is a rather distressing fact. It seems that we the public have been lied to (again) for many years now. The "clean diesel" might just be a myth.

Given that these manufacturers come from all over the world, how is it possible that this is an accident? Is there so much incest in the automobile industry that the code from one manufacturer has permeated the industry and the rest of the manufacturers are just waiting to get caught?

VW Says Rogue Engineers, Not Executives, Responsible for Emissions Scandal

Volkswagen's US CEO testified Thursday that the decision to use emissions cheating software was not made at the corporate level. Instead, it was "software engineers who put this in for whatever reason," Michael Horn told a congressional panel that is investigating the scandal.

What's more, Horn told US lawmakers that the German automaker was withdrawing its application to sell 2016 autos with 2.0-liter diesel engines because they don't comply with US emissions standards. Horn testified that the 2016 vehicles were equipped with the same type of software that allowed millions of VW diesel vehicles to cheat pollution tests. "As a result, we have withdrawn the application for certification of our model year 2016 vehicles. We are working with the agencies to continue the certification process," Horn told the House Committee on Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations.

The timing is perfect to throw the engineers under the bus.


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  • (Score: 2) by BK on Monday October 12 2015, @04:12PM

    by BK (4868) on Monday October 12 2015, @04:12PM (#248470)

    Especially given the fact that the US limits are most blatant protectionism (e.g. emissions per burned gallon, rather than travelled mile) to keep small import cars out.

    I'm not sure about your cause and effect here... or about how the standard is about protectionism. At the very least, given real auto sales in the USA, it seems like protectionism has failed...

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  • (Score: 2) by Rich on Monday October 12 2015, @04:32PM

    by Rich (945) on Monday October 12 2015, @04:32PM (#248477) Journal

    At the very least, given real auto sales in the USA, it seems like protectionism has failed...

    Well, that's because VW cheated. Had they tried to sell at properly-clean-exhaust prices, no one would have bought them :) The manufacturers can't put large truck level detox into a VW Fox or smart sized car at competetive prices ($500 detox vs $10K car or so).

    I remember when the smart cars got their particle filters here in Germany. They said they use a so called "open" system (don't ask me about the details) that just slightly pushed down the emissions, so the requirements were barely met - at the expense of 20-25% more consumption.

    • (Score: 2) by BK on Monday October 12 2015, @05:23PM

      by BK (4868) on Monday October 12 2015, @05:23PM (#248513)

      Again, not sure how this is protectionism. Maybe the rules are different for locally produced vehicles?

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