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on Wednesday October 21 2015, @09:08PM
from the we-put-a-man-on-the-moon,-but-we-wont-do-that dept.
from the we-put-a-man-on-the-moon,-but-we-wont-do-that dept.
Microsoft's telemetry features in Windows 10 are a privacy advocate's nightmare. Now that Microsoft is trying to back port these "features" into existing versions of Windows, it seems like many of us have no future upgrade path. Sure there is Linux, but I have some older Windows software that I still want to use. ReactOS is still out there, but does not look like there have been any updates in a while.
Does the Soylent community believe it is possible to get this project going full steam to producing a useable alternative for existing Windows users?
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by Grishnakh on Thursday October 22 2015, @12:26AM
Last I heard, a lot of that expensive specialized industrial software doesn't work under Windows 10, but these machines, when connected to the internet, update to Windows 10 anyway, breaking the industrial software on 6-figure machines. So basically you don't have a choice: you have to use some old version of Windows and that's it, and you have to keep your machine off the network.
The only solution to this is to simply not buy this garbage. If a vendor is so stupid they use Windows for a 6-figure industrial machine, find another vendor that isn't so stupid. Windows simply does not give you the control that Linux does; even the industrial equipment vendor has no control over the OS they're basing their product on.
(Score: 5, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 22 2015, @01:28AM
Someone modded you troll. Apparently, they don't work with industrial equpiment. Branson welders discovered the truth of what you're saying. They stopped making Windows controlled welders, and switched off to Linux. None of our capital investment level equipment has ever used Windows. None of our small peripheral equipment has ever used Windows. Only Branson has ever used Windows, and they saw the light. (Their welders fill a middle ground, costing only a small fraction of our plastic injection machines, but substantially more than small punch presses and other peripherals.)
We're gonna be able to vacation in Gaza, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and maybe Minnesota soon. Incredible times.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 22 2015, @10:27AM
Ah, so Microsoft is actually doing something to secure those industry applications! ;-)
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Thursday October 22 2015, @11:58AM
My bet is they had a lot of VB5/6 code. Recent security changes like don't foolishly write to the program files directory, UAC, and graphical changes are what cripples them. Though, some simple tweaks can fix most or all of those problems. Though, drivers and real hardware like PCI cards are your achilles heel. I have CNC systems that will not run on any Windows after XP. They used a realtime subsystem from Ardence that was tied to 2k/XP architecture. So those stay XP or 2k and are isolated from the network.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by LoRdTAW on Thursday October 22 2015, @01:18PM
Go look up Beckhoff automation. They make Windows PC based automation systems for plants and machinery that can cost millions. Scary stuff.