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In a move that isn't particularly surprising given their lack of support for intellectual diversity to date, Reddit has introduced outright bans to replace its shadow banning policy.
Reddit has introduced an "Account Suspension" feature that will replace Shadowbanning for non-spammers, though previously shadowbanned accounts are not going to be automatically unbanned.
A post on July 28, 2015 by Reddit admin /u/krispykrackers explains the basics of Shadowbanning, a tool initially created to counteract spammers by hiding their content without letting them know their account had been shadowbanned. However, this was Reddit's only tool for an account-wide ban, and it has since been used on people other than spammers as well.
Account Suspension will be more straightforward and transparent than a Shadowban. An F.A.Q. page (sic) linked in the announcement post states that only Reddit administrators will be able to apply suspensions, which can be temporary or permanent. Permanent suspensions will result in a message about the account's status being added to that account's userpage.
See, I'm a veteran. This means I was willing to take a bullet for the right of my countrymen to speak their minds. On this at least I have not mellowed as I've aged. My personal line in the sand is that we will never site ban for anything but over-the-top spamming or gross/repeated illegal activity while I am on staff. See my journal if you feel the need for that last statement to be expounded upon.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Thursday November 12 2015, @06:03PM
but I can join a discussion on Fox, and I can say some pretty outrageous things, and no one ever threatens to ban me.
Yeah, 'cause shutting down the entire comments section [newshounds.us] is so much better!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday November 12 2015, @06:13PM
Interesting. Newshounds seems to imply that Fox shouldn't have put news stories online that might be controversial. So - are you pointing out that Fox censored the comments on one especially controversial story, or are you instead pointing out that Newshounds wants to censor Fox?
And that line of thought leads me to ask, how do we end racism in this nation? If you punish the white man, will racism end? If controversy is silenced, will racism end? Or - is it more likely that some open, loud, discordant controversy will end racism?
I choose the discordance. Let the rabid racist beat each other to death, both the blacks and the whites. We'll be better off without them - both the blacks and the whites. Once they've killed each other off, then all that's left are more moderate middle grounders, who can reach some kind of agreement with each other.
We've been doing it all wrong for centuries now. Don't silence anyone - encourage every one to run at the mouth.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 4, Interesting) by DeathMonkey on Thursday November 12 2015, @06:26PM
So - are you pointing out that Fox censored the comments
Yes, I am pointing out that you are completely wrong about Fox not censoring.
And that line of thought leads me to ask: You are aware that trying to move the goalposts like that implies that you know you're wrong?
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday November 12 2015, @06:34PM
Uhhhhh - discussions tend to evolve, ya know? A discussion that leads nowhere isn't much of a discussion. I've pointed out that Fox censors far less than MSM. You showed me that Fox did censor a story. I've moved no goalposts. I'm still asking.
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 12 2015, @07:19PM
> I've pointed out that Fox censors far less than MSM.
Uh no. You claimed something totally nebulous "MSM" versus one named company. Totally unprovable assertion. Face with counter-evidence you retreated into further generics.
Besides Fox is fucking mainstream. The number one news channel and they aren't part of the MSM?
All you've done is flown the flag of your culture affiliation in a sort of "no true scotsman" fallacy.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Thursday November 12 2015, @07:37PM
Whatever. If Fox is mainstream, it is right of center mainstream, while almost all of the rest of mainstream is left to far left. There really is nothing "nebulous" about US mainstream media. There are the Turner affiliated networks, and the Hearst affiliated networks, and finally, there is Fox. Hearst and Turner have banned me so many times, I've lost count.
If you think I'm wrong, just install the request policy addon for Firefox. Hit any and all of the mainstream media you care to check. CNN, for instance, pulls half of their news off of Turner servers. Maybe more than half. Few CNN pages load unless you allow turner dot com and ugdturner dot com.
We aren't discussing some long list of 90 corporations, after all.
http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6 [businessinsider.com]
“I have become friends with many school shooters” - Tampon Tim Walz
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 13 2015, @01:57AM
> Whatever.
Lol. The ultimate tacit admission of getting it wrong but being too prideful to own it like a man. Who knew runaway had the maturity of a 12 year old girl?