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posted by n1 on Wednesday December 02 2015, @09:45AM   Printer-friendly
from the focused-user-experience dept.

In this Ars Technica article, Mozilla Corporation Chair Mitchell Baker discloses the desire to drop the Thunderbird email client altogether.

"Many inside of Mozilla, including an overwhelming majority of our leadership, feel the need to be laser-focused on activities like Firefox that can have an industry-wide impact." Baker writes. "With all due respect to Thunderbird and the Thunderbird community, we have been clear for years that we do not view Thunderbird as having this sort of potential."

Thunderbird has already been demoted to second-tier status, receiving only security updates since the summer of 2012. Baker's plan would turn Thunderbird over to a community product, similar to what happened with the Mozilla Suite a decade ago.

Is Mozilla's decision to laser-focus on improving Firefox going to stop their dwindling market share? Who else, besides the submitter, is still using Thunderbird? And where will you go once Thunderbird is no longer supported?


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @09:54AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @09:54AM (#270545)

    So Silla. And sad what success has done to them. All the money they have now, and they can't do the things they did when they had little. Disappointing and sad...

    I still use thunderbird. But mostly to check a bunch of web based throwaways I have created over the years. I use Fossamail for more important accounts. Just like I use firefox every so often, but primarily rely on Pale Moon.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @10:06AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @10:06AM (#270550)

    Unfortunately the Fossamail/Palemoon team choose to do not support Windows XP, and worse, require a processor with SSE2.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Celestial on Wednesday December 02 2015, @12:41PM

      by Celestial (4891) on Wednesday December 02 2015, @12:41PM (#270600) Journal

      If you're still using Windows XP, you have bigger problems to worry about than an unsupported e-mail client.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @02:10PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @02:10PM (#270650)

        Some decade-old AMD machines don't support SSE2. I was able to recently upgrade. Chrome has dropped non-SSE2 support as well.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @04:33PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @04:33PM (#270772)

          Some decade-old AMD machines don't support SSE2. I was able to recently upgrade.

          I'm sure that chips lacking SSE2 were still available at the end of 2005, but all K8 and later AMD chips support SSE2 and even those were starting to be old hat by then.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @08:53PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @08:53PM (#270910)

            The AlthonXP+ family doesn't support SSE2. And there is a boatload of them still in use.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 07 2015, @08:11PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 07 2015, @08:11PM (#273044)

              Who is using them, and what for? Whatever they are being used for, I doubt the people using them care about running Palemoon or Fossamail on them.

              You'd find many working computers with better processors down the dump.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @11:11PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @11:11PM (#271006)

      if I understand right they have combined the WinXP and Atom versions into one now?
      http://www.palemoon.org/palemoon-atom.shtml [palemoon.org]
      it do requires SSE2 though, where can I find a list of processors it excludes by doing that?

      Palemoon begun its life as an a web browser for high end processors before it also had to take over the firefox users because the crap Mozilla do, so it is understandable in a historical perspective, but still it can't be too hard compile up a winXP version that don't nees SSE2. Wouldn't it be possible for a third party to compile this version?

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @11:36PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 02 2015, @11:36PM (#271024)

        Yes there are!
        go to http://www.palemoon.org/contributed-builds.shtml [palemoon.org]
        and click "SSE build (x86) by Mercury." ftp://ftp.palemoon.org/SSE/ [palemoon.org]

        and download the palemoon-25.8.1.SSE.WinXP.installer.exe or palemoon-25.8.1.SSE.WinXP.zip (2015-11-29) there.
        perfect!

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by linuxrocks123 on Wednesday December 02 2015, @08:27PM

    by linuxrocks123 (2557) on Wednesday December 02 2015, @08:27PM (#270882) Journal

    Forgive the self-promotion, but I recently wrote an email client: https://github.com/linuxrocks123/MailTask [github.com]

    It's not "just an email client"; it integrates task management as well. And it's definitely not ready for non-technical users, and setting it up might require some back and forth with me so that you can learn how to operate it.

    The problem I was trying to solve is that often messages in my inbox correspond to things I need to do, but it's not 1-1 and I'd like to be able to check off a task without deleting the a message. What I ended up with was an IMAP client that serves as a server to both one or more UI clients and a utility client that just exists to process incoming messages and add necessary items to the task list, based on the sender, headers, and contents of the messages.

    You should consider it late alpha at the moment. But I am using it, and I think it's really cool :) Maybe you will, too, if you have the patience for running an alpha and aren't afraid to ask me for help. You can put issues on the issue tracker to do so.

    If you do want to use it, though, you may want to wait a little bit for the next push to github. The version available right now is a little out of date from what I'm running. I should be pushing the bugfixes on my local copy sometime in the next 2-3 weeks.