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The Center for American Progress reports:
Arnold Schwarzenegger posted a note on Facebook on [December 7] that made a very good point about climate change and renewable energy: It really doesn't matter what you believe.
The former California governor addressed people who think climate change is a conspiracy or a hoax, and asked them whether the deaths from pollution are acceptable, whether fossil fuels will last forever, and--to paraphrase greatly--what kind of world they want to live in. This excerpt pretty much sums up his argument to climate deniers.
There are two doors. Behind Door Number One is a completely sealed room, with a regular, gasoline-fueled car. Behind Door Number Two is an identical, completely sealed room, with an electric car. Both engines are running full blast.
I want you to pick a door to open, and enter the room and shut the door behind you. You have to stay in the room you choose for one hour. You cannot turn off the engine. You do not get a gas mask.
I'm guessing you chose the Door Number Two, with the electric car, right? Door number one is a fatal choice--who would ever want to breathe those fumes?
It's a strong point, but even more importantly, it's a bipartisan point. We are in an era where addressing climate change is largely split down party lines, especially in Congress. Moderate Republicans like Schwarzenegger, who believe a healthy environment and climate are public goods, haven't yet been able to sway people who think that clean energy is going to kill the economy.
But Schwarzenegger should know that a green economy can work. As governor of California, he worked with the Democratic-led legislature to enact the nation's first comprehensive greenhouse gas emissions reduction law and the nation's first low-carbon fuel standard. Now California is the nation's leader in both solar installations and solar jobs.
2 nitpicks: If it's electric, it's called a motor, not an engine. "Power plant" would have been more apt.
The electric car would need a way to allow the wheels to turn without the car going anywhere.
...and if the gasoline car's engine is "running full blast", you'll need a load (dynamometer).
Otherwise: Brilliant.
(Score: -1, Troll) by jmorris on Sunday December 13 2015, @09:51PM
What does this article prove?
That martyb is a clickbaiting douche for posting this horrid article more suited for buzzfeed than a site that claims to strive for a slightly elevated discourse. That gewg_ is an idiot for submitting it. That Soros's Center for American Progress is scientifically illiterate. That once again we see why the governator was a much better idea than an actual leader.
Others have already explained the idiocy of the actual proposal and that (other than a few fuel cell driven cars) electric cars simply externalize their carbon emissions, etc.
No, I want to call out the utter unseriousness of the progs displayed by their highlighting of this stupid idea. Is it any wonder that sensible people doubt them when they squander their reputation like this on an almost daily basis? Is it really unreasonable to believe progs are scientifically illiterate when they promote utter garbage like this? And they do it right after Obama & Lurch just got finished preening for the cameras after their great 'climate change agreement' that even James Hansen says is a joke. It was purely for political posturing, even if you believe in the AGW nonsense you can't seriously defend the agreement as likely to do anything to solve the problem, just throw a lot of money around to grease the political skids.
This is a symptom of the general failure of the political class. The masses throughout the developed world are now beginning to understand that the emperor has no clothes. The idea is quickly spreading that the 'smart ruling elite' are incompetent boobs leading us into civilizational suicide. This is going to get messy.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 13 2015, @09:56PM
(((Soros)))
(Score: 2) by Hyperturtle on Monday December 14 2015, @12:26AM
I am wondering who the civilians are that are seeing through the clothes. I suppose a few us us in ivory towers of our making (stained with the pollution of our fossil fuel society, no less) may notice the problem... but a lot of people seem to be endorsing the likes of Trump, or if not endorsing Trump, endorsing the likes of people copying Trump.
They're wrapping the guy up in the emperor robes... they aren't seeing through anything.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday December 14 2015, @01:02AM
Ok, Republican resistant, then?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2015, @01:21AM
I feel like gewg_ is becoming the new Phoenix666 with all the clickbait BuzzFeedesque articles on climate change, graphene, and so on. Which is funny, because I like some of Phoenix666's most recent submissions, but that's primarily because they're covering his main level of expertise: programming. Phoenix666, those articles are far better than the dreck that was previously being submitted here; feel free to add more articles on programming.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2015, @02:03AM
You seem to have missed a phase in the history of this site.
-- gewg_
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 14 2015, @11:26AM
And you need to upgrade your troll-fu. This one is a disgrace.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Monday December 14 2015, @12:41PM
You should submit the articles you would like to appear on the home page. Anybody can. There's a wiki, linked to from the left-hand margin, that shows you how.
Washington DC delenda est.