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posted by cmn32480 on Monday January 04 2016, @04:21PM   Printer-friendly
from the seeds-of-revolution dept.

NPR is reporting on this tale of direct action:

A self-styled militia in eastern Oregon grabbed national headlines Saturday when they broke into the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. There the armed group remains Sunday, occupying the federal building in protest of what it sees as government overreach on rangelands throughout the western United States.

"We stand in defense," Ammon Bundy, the group's apparent leader and spokesperson, told Oregon Public Broadcasting. "And when the time is right we will begin to defend the people of Harney County, [Ore.,] in using the land and the resources."

Ammon's brother, Ryan, has reportedly used harsher rhetoric, saying members of the militia are willing to kill or be killed.

Their last name may ring a bell. Ammon and Ryan Bundy are sons of rancher Cliven Bundy, who notably took part in an armed standoff with the federal Bureau of Land Management, or BLM, in Nevada in 2014.

Ammon Bundy now is part of a group of 15 to 150 people — depending on which source you believe — who are protesting the arson convictions of two Oregon ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr. and his son, Steven.

Also at Oregon Live, NYT, and the Associated Press.


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  • (Score: 2, Troll) by TheGratefulNet on Monday January 04 2016, @08:47PM

    by TheGratefulNet (659) on Monday January 04 2016, @08:47PM (#284716)

    all of your 'cures' are false ones. you can't fight congress (who, here, can compete with PAC money? not a single one of us!). you can't correct an out-of-control government once its gone too far down the rabbit hole (like ours).

    while I don't agree with bundy and his goons, I also don't agree that there are existing peaceful ways to bring our country back on track again.

    I have no solution. but I am not dumb enough to think the system can self correct once its gone as far off course as ours has.

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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday January 04 2016, @10:23PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Monday January 04 2016, @10:23PM (#284786)

    who, here, can compete with PAC money? not a single one of us!

    Not a single person, of course, but a lot of ordinary people can - $20 * 300,000 people = the cost of an average Senate campaign. Sure, that's not as much fun as playing cowboy out west, but it's at least as likely to work as anything else that you could try. Candidates like Bernie Sanders survive because of this kind of math.

    And you know what else? Dollars don't vote, and incumbents can and have been sunk by poorly-funded insurgent candidates just because the voters were upset with them.

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    • (Score: 2) by rondon on Tuesday January 05 2016, @01:49PM

      by rondon (5167) on Tuesday January 05 2016, @01:49PM (#285110)

      Just to be clear, I read that as you suggesting that we recruit 10% of the US population to influence one senate election... does that seem realistic to you? It seems wildly unfair to me that one tenth of the US population should have to donate the equivalent of 3 (or more) day's meals in order to be represented with 1% of the senate.

      I think you have put forth more evidence that the system is broken.

      • (Score: 2) by rondon on Tuesday January 05 2016, @01:51PM

        by rondon (5167) on Tuesday January 05 2016, @01:51PM (#285111)

        Crap, major math fail. My apologies. 300,000 is certainly not 10% of 300 million :(

        And it is making me wait for my mea culpa... ugh.