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posted by takyon on Sunday January 10 2016, @11:30AM   Printer-friendly
from the the-truth-is-out-there dept.

Although many U.S. presidential candidates are discussing "aliens," the Daily Mail has a story about a candidate talking about aliens from potentially much farther away. According to the Daily Mail, Hillary Clinton has made a campaign promise to 'get to the bottom' of Area 51 if she should be elected President of the United States of America. Specifically, Clinton said that she would reveal the UFO truth:

"one way or another. Maybe we could have, like, a task force to go to Area 51."

"I think we may have been [visited already]. We don't know for sure."

The Daily Mail story is based on the report of an interview with the candidate published in the Conway Daily Sun newspaper of Conway, New Hampshire.

Do the contributors here think that extraterrestrials are a promising and important campaign topic? Or is there skepticism?


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  • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Sunday January 10 2016, @09:58PM

    You quote your sources, I'll take this source as more reliable.

    " rel="url2html-5510">http://jacksonville.com/reason/fact-check/2014-03-08/story/fact-check-was-hillary-clinton-fired-watergate-investigation

    You should. Well, you should at least read the whole article. From the above link:

    Calabrese’s interview with Zeifman has been published around the Internet and repeated by pundits such as Rush Limbaugh and Neil Boortz. But there is nothing to out-and-out confirm Zeifman’s rendition. [emphasis added]

    Whereas the Snopes article [snopes.com] quotes Zeifman (with attribution):

    And again in 1998, Zeifman was quoted in a Scripps Howard News Service article [cloudfront.net] as unambiguously confirming that not only did he not "fire" Hillary, but that it was not even within his power to do so:
    Jerome Zeifman, chief Democratic counsel on the House Judiciary Committee in 1974 ... does not have flattering memories of Rodham's work on the committee. "If I had the power to fire her, I would have fired her," he said. [emphasis added]

    What's more,

    Zeifman made no bones about having an ax to grind with Hillary Clinton (putting out the anti-Clinton paperback Hillary's Pursuit of Power in 2006), and as its blade grew sharper over the years, he quite obviously shifted his recollections of events from the 1973-74 timeframe to conform to his current point of view rather than the other way around.

    The Jacksonville.com link you provide also states that

    In addition, neither www.TruthOrFiction.com nor we could find any response from Hillary Clinton to Zeifman’s book or to his accusations.

    However,

    Back in April 2008, Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign site responded to Zeifman's claims by asserting:

    In a column circulating on the internet Jerry Zeifman alleges that Hillary was fired from her job on the House Judiciary Committee in the 1970s.

    This is false. Hillary was not fired.

    This is confirmed here [truthorfiction.com], the very site that jacksonville.com claims can't verify the 2008 Clinton campaign's response. Sigh.

    Now, I'm not a huge fan of Hillary Clinton. At the same time, I'm even less of a fan of mendacity [youtube.com]. There are plenty of unflattering true things that can be said about Hillary Clinton without relying on both unsubstantiated claims and outright lies.

    By the way, it took me less than five minutes to determine the truth/falsity of these claims. You, apparently can't even spare that before spewing falsehoods. That smacks of laziness and intellectual dishonesty.

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