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posted by martyb on Monday January 18 2016, @08:17AM   Printer-friendly

In a VentureBeat interview with Raja Koduri, head of the Radeon Technologies Group at AMD, the company continues to advocate for virtual reality running at "16K resolution" at up to 240 Hz:

When Advanced Micro Devices created its own stand-alone graphics division, Radeon Technologies Group, and crafted a new brand, Polaris, for its upcoming graphics architecture, it was an admission of sorts. AMD championed the combination of processors and graphics into a single chip, dubbed the accelerated processing unit (APU). But the pendulum swung a little too far in that direction, away from stand-alone graphics. And now it's Raja Koduri's job to compensate for that.

I interviewed Koduri at the 2016 International CES, the big tech trade show in Las Vegas last week. He acknowledged that AMD intends to put graphics back in the center. And he said that 2016 will be a very big year for the company as it introduces its advanced FinFET manufacturing technology, which will result in much better performance per watt — or graphics that won't melt your computer. Koduri believes this technology will help AMD beat rivals such as Nvidia. AMD's new graphics chips will hit during the middle of 2016, Koduri said.

Beyond 2016, Koduri believes that graphics is going to get more and more amazing. Virtual reality is debuting, but we won't be completely satisfied with the imagery until we get 3D graphics that can support 16K screens, or at least 16 times more pixels on a screen that[sic] we have available on most TVs today. Koduri wants to pump those pixels at you at a rate of 240 hertz, or changing the pixels at a rate of 240 times per second. Only then will you really experience true immersion that you won't be able to tell apart from the real world. He calls it "mirror-like" graphics. That's pretty far out thinking.

AMD's "Polaris" GPUs will be released sometime during the summer of 2016. Along with AMD's "Zen" CPUs and APUs, Polaris GPUs will be built using a 14nm FinFET process, skipping the 20nm node.


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  • (Score: 2, Flamebait) by ThePhilips on Monday January 18 2016, @09:36AM

    by ThePhilips (5677) on Monday January 18 2016, @09:36AM (#291053)

    Whatever. Who cares about AMD?

    I'm playing games rarely these days, but still like to keep a decent GPU inside the rig.

    For better Linux compatibility went to the dark side, the nVidia.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 18 2016, @09:51AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday January 18 2016, @09:51AM (#291055)

    Rig. Gotta build a rig. For the games. Gamers need a rig. Gotta have a rig.

    Yeah that's right. Virtual reality can't ever be used for anything except gaming.

    I remember back in the day when people had high hopes for the potential of VR. Virtual tours of famous landmarks and historical sites could be given to virtual tourists. Realtors could show properties to distant prospective buyers. Crap. All of it crap. Complete utter crap. Gaming is the only thing. For gamers!

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by linkdude64 on Monday January 18 2016, @01:17PM

    by linkdude64 (5482) on Monday January 18 2016, @01:17PM (#291098)

    "Who cares about AMD?"

    Consumers who disagree with Intel's extremely shady business practices? What a terrible question to ever ask, in any space, about any topic, that is intended to promote discussion.

    • (Score: 2) by ThePhilips on Monday January 18 2016, @02:01PM

      by ThePhilips (5677) on Monday January 18 2016, @02:01PM (#291108)

      Who cares about AMD?"

      Consumers who disagree with Intel's extremely shady business practices? What a terrible question to ever ask, in any space, about any topic, that is intended to promote discussion.

      The thing is, long time ago I was one of them. AMD in the past was (and largely still is) the best bang for the buck. Ditto ATI.

      But after some time, I just got tired of the fights. I just want (and can afford) the best performance and best compatibility. I was buying AMD and ATI for more that 10 years - and it didn't help much. So what's the point?

      Fighting the buggy drivers (ATI always allowed OEMs to customize the drivers/hardware - and make out of it a stinking pile of crap; needless to mention the totally absent support for Linux) or fighting the laggy frame rate in games (because they are optimized for Intel CPUs, and literally stuttered on AMDs) - eventually one just gets tired of it.

      • (Score: 1) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Monday January 18 2016, @03:41PM

        by Scruffy Beard 2 (6030) on Monday January 18 2016, @03:41PM (#291141)

        Is this the same Philips that decided that mart bulbs did not have to inter-operate?

        Your account does not strike me as a Corporate account though.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by ThePhilips on Monday January 18 2016, @04:34PM

          by ThePhilips (5677) on Monday January 18 2016, @04:34PM (#291150)

          I'm no corporate astroturfer. I'm an electric kettle which became self-aware.

      • (Score: 2) by sudo rm -rf on Monday January 18 2016, @04:44PM

        by sudo rm -rf (2357) on Monday January 18 2016, @04:44PM (#291153) Journal

        The thing is, long time ago I was one of them.

        Me too, and I am still, since forever.

        But after some time, I just got tired of [...]Fighting the buggy drivers, [...]totally absent support for Linux

        Agreed and agreed. I seriously consider buying an nVidia card next time I upgrade my windows box. And for my linux notebook, the next one will definetly not have AMD inside.

        • (Score: 2) by Gravis on Monday January 18 2016, @05:19PM

          by Gravis (4596) on Monday January 18 2016, @05:19PM (#291166)

          Agreed and agreed. I seriously consider buying an nVidia card next time I upgrade my windows box.

          the fact that you still have a windows box after everything MS has done really devalues your opinion.

          • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Tork on Monday January 18 2016, @05:35PM

            by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Monday January 18 2016, @05:35PM (#291175)
            Why? If he had anything but a Windows box you wouldn't be having an nVidia vs. AMD debate.
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            • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Monday January 18 2016, @06:58PM

              by Scruffy Beard 2 (6030) on Monday January 18 2016, @06:58PM (#291202)

              My last video card purchase was an nVidia GeForce 6200 PCI card. The nouveau maintainers assured me that the card was reverse-engineered (enough to work). The free ATI drivers are kind of hit-and-miss (at least for older cards).

              BTW, my "new" nvidia card was so out of date that it included a coupon for a newer card (that presumably was not reverse-engineered yet).

              I am now using an slightly newer ATI card (Cedar) (acquired second-hand). The free driver does not support tessellation or dashed poly-lines at the moment (and I had not the time to fix that). The supported screen and image resolutions are higher though.

          • (Score: 2) by sudo rm -rf on Tuesday January 19 2016, @10:04AM

            by sudo rm -rf (2357) on Tuesday January 19 2016, @10:04AM (#291483) Journal

            FYI I have three windows boxes. Not counting the 6 server installations I have to use during my day job.

        • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Monday January 18 2016, @06:46PM

          by Freeman (732) on Monday January 18 2016, @06:46PM (#291195) Journal

          The problem is that every time I compare prices it feels like Intel / Nvidia are trying to rip me off. AMD is still hands down the best bang for your buck. The last computer I built was a Six-Core AMD CPU, 8GB RAM, 512MB VC, 1TB HDD, Blu-Ray Drive, etc that cost $600 a few years ago. I went to price out a new machine and there's not a whole lot of difference. More or less same CPU, same RAM, but updated graphics and a SSD would make it a little more expensive, but still around that $600 to $700 mark. The one thing that is really holding my system back is the lack of a SSD. I already upgraded to a 2GB VC and 16GB of Ram, but at the time all I did was future proof my machine. It didn't actually increase my performance. The lack of a SSD was the bottleneck.

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      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Gravis on Monday January 18 2016, @05:33PM

        by Gravis (4596) on Monday January 18 2016, @05:33PM (#291173)

        I just want (and can afford) the best performance and best compatibility.

        that's what consoles are for. you will get the best performance and best compatibility with consoles every time.

        Fighting the buggy drivers (ATI always allowed OEMs to customize the drivers/hardware - and make out of it a stinking pile of crap; needless to mention the totally absent support for Linux)

        i don't deny that, it's why i currently use an nvidia card with nouveau. when AMDGPU is opened up, i'll toss out my nvidia card.

        the laggy frame rate in games (because they are optimized for Intel CPUs, and literally stuttered on AMDs)

        actually, it's not because they are optimized for Intel, it's because they are deoptimized for everything non-Intel.

        I was buying AMD and ATI for more that 10 years - and it didn't help much. So what's the point?

        for one, Intel chips are backdoored. [libreboot.org] for two, you would be enabling further Intel underhandedness. If you don't want to fight, you should be using a console system.

  • (Score: 2) by Arik on Monday January 18 2016, @07:08PM

    by Arik (4543) on Monday January 18 2016, @07:08PM (#291205) Journal
    I'm thinking you earned the 'flamebait' mod with that one.

    AMD is far from perfect themselves, but NVidia are still the worst in the business. Just ask the Nouveau developers.
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    • (Score: 2) by ThePhilips on Monday January 18 2016, @07:31PM

      by ThePhilips (5677) on Monday January 18 2016, @07:31PM (#291218)

      Why as a consumer should I care about who is the "best" or the "worst" in the business?

      Why I should inflict on myself the pains - and worsen my life experience - only to make a political/religious statement? which wouldn't change anything to anybody, except bragging rights and fake feeling of self-righteousness on the internet forums?

      The problem is that even if I would support AMD/ATI with my buying decisions, they would still pocket the profits and deliver the same shoddy hardware/software as before. I sucker "bought" it before, so it must be "good enough" to sell, after all. If I had seen at least some shimmer of hope, I might have. But we have played the shell game with the ATI/AMD's open documentations and open-source drivers for about a decade now - with the same level of progress for, like, forever. Names and buzzwords come and go, the uselessness of the open source driver stays. Heck, the current devels even nixed the perfectly working 2D driver for older ATI hardware from X11, leaving bunch of people hanging, while failing to deliver any usable alternative for years now.

      AMD is far from perfect themselves, but NVidia are still the worst in the business. Just ask the Nouveau developers.

      That statements reeks of either childish naivete or religious fundamentalism.

      Me, I am a consumer. I do not give a damn about how two for-profit companies relate to each other. Just like they do not give a damn about me.

      • (Score: 1) by Arik on Tuesday January 19 2016, @01:05AM

        by Arik (4543) on Tuesday January 19 2016, @01:05AM (#291341) Journal
        "Me, I am a consumer."

        That's just sad man.
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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2016, @08:08AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday January 19 2016, @08:08AM (#291458)
          Sad but true. That's why I find it hilarious that so many people believe that somehow the huge numbers of people who don't vote wisely with their ballots every few years will:
          a) vote wisely with their wallets day by day
          b) vote wisely with their bullets clip by clip in an armed revolution.
          • (Score: 2) by ThePhilips on Tuesday January 19 2016, @08:58AM

            by ThePhilips (5677) on Tuesday January 19 2016, @08:58AM (#291472)

            You refer to a different matter: action and decision when faced with a choice.

            In consumer market, as long as the money are not huge constrain, one does not need to decide or think or choose: one just looks at the reviews and benchmark and test results.

            But when it comes to politics, wars and revolutions, it is really a different - volatile - situation. Nothing is known for sure, since the competing parties intentionally muddy the waters. Especially today, the wars are won not on the battlefields anymore, they are won on the news channels.

        • (Score: 2) by ThePhilips on Tuesday January 19 2016, @08:48AM

          by ThePhilips (5677) on Tuesday January 19 2016, @08:48AM (#291468)

          Me, I am a consumer.

          That's just sad man.

          As I said:

          Why I should inflict on myself the pains - and worsen my life experience - only to make a political/religious statement? which wouldn't change anything to anybody, except bragging rights and fake feeling of self-righteousness on the internet forums?

          Who of us is sad? Who's living intentionally a miserable life?

          • (Score: 2) by Arik on Tuesday January 19 2016, @04:38PM

            by Arik (4543) on Tuesday January 19 2016, @04:38PM (#291618) Journal
            What's sad is defining yourself as a "consumer." How much more brain-washed could you be?

            Do you have a job? Do you work for a living? Do you live within your means?

            If so you should not denigrate yourself as a mere 'consumer' - you are not a leech, you are first a PRODUCER and only CONSUME after you PRODUCE.

            "'Why I should inflict on myself the pains - and worsen my life experience - only to make a political/religious statement? which wouldn't change anything to anybody, except bragging rights and fake feeling of self-righteousness on the internet forums?'

            Who of us is sad? Who's living intentionally a miserable life?"

            Obviously you are. The twisted way you justify yourself here makes that very clear. A healthy, happy person would not need to denigrate others as 'fake' and 'self-righteous' here. That's utter nonsense, of course - but your need to believe it seems very revealing.

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