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posted by mrcoolbp on Wednesday April 09 2014, @07:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the I-thought-the-name-was-bacconmuffinnews dept.

After several early attempts, we have settled on a process for deciding on the final name for this site currently known as SoylentNews.org. You'll need to log in and go to: userprefs/homepage and check the box marked "Willing to Vote" if you'd like to participate (do this now, the submission round will go out soon). The vote will occur using an email-based solution loosely based on the Debian/Condercet method that we cooked up. Note: checking this box will indicate that we are scraping your email address from the database for participation (this is completely opt-in). If you wish not to participate, just make sure this box is unchecked (this is the default).

We are opening the floor to name suggestions. If you have suggested a name earlier, you'll need to re-submit it through this email voting system. Though we prefer available domains, if you have pre-purchased a domain (eg: to prevent squatters), by submitting the name you are stating that you are the owner of the domain(s) and will give it without strings attached to this project if it were to be chosen.

The criteria for an acceptable name:

  • Unique and free of obvious trademarks
  • Ideally be a bit technological/geeky and signal the site is "news"
  • Domain should be available in all permutations: .com/.net/.org
  • Easy to pronounce
  • Easy to type
  • Easy to 'market' or has a "hook" (imagine a mug with the name, a logo, slogans, plays on words, etc.)
  • Passes the girlfriend / wife / significant other / random person at work - test

This is how it will work:

  1. The first round will go out asking for name submissions
  2. Submissions will remain open for 7 days
  3. The community will vote to yield 5 names
  4. Staff will vote and produce 5 names
  5. A final vote on all 10 names will be held
  6. At this point, the staff will have a second full vote on the same ten items the community voted on
  7. The result of this vote, and the community vote, including its runoff, will then be published
  8. The staff vote is the final decision. We have to live with this. But the community will have a powerful influence on the final staff vote.

If you're interested:

NCommander adds: So its finally here, and I wanted to apologize for the long delay before this actually happened. To the editoral team, please bump this to the top of the index for the next 24 hours so everyone gets a chance to see it (click 'fastforward' then save to autoupdate the timestamp). I promise a Featured Story option is coming in the next major update so we don't have to deal with this!

 
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  • (Score: 2) by AudioGuy on Monday June 02 2014, @08:44PM

    by AudioGuy (24) on Monday June 02 2014, @08:44PM (#50398) Journal

    The list (above) of proposed names was sent out to all registered voters and the late additions.

    Voted in the Scoring round: 241 + 10 = 251 (241 registered plus ten of the late additions)
    Emails that had to be hand decoded: 1 (non-standard quoted-printable encoding)
    Emails that had to be hand counted (people added later): 10

    People voting more than once:
            Second vote unchanged at all : 2
    (no change to vote, probably forgot they had voted)
            Order alone : 5
    (Order change suggests they misunderstood directions)
            Order plus other changes : 3
    (indeterminate due to changes in what was voted for)
                                                                                                                    --
    Total: 10

    Raw Results with point totals shown:

    TOTAL NAME
    (total pts)

    (0)
    1228 soylentnews.com
    789 devnull.com
    379 sudonews.com
    346 grepnews.com
    208 apt-get-news.com
    (2950) (points used for first 5)

    - top 5 above (this could change if some are unavailable) -

    204 newsgrep.com
    198 port119.net
    198 geekcard.com
    188 dailybacon.net
    174 forkdot.org
    164 techmatter.com
    159 ionews.com
    150 li694-22.com
    147 newslash.org
    145 salientnews.net
    132 legitworksite.com
    126 newsdotorg.org
    116 bangdot.org
    116 dotbang.org
    110 baconnews.com
    97 altdiscuss.com
    93 alphadot.com
    89 thegarlic.com
    89 nerdcraft.com
    87 forkbeta.com
    86 nerdpost.com
    86 nerdcard.net
    85 fuckbeta.com
    80 dupenews.com
    80 hashsalt.org
    77 reslashed.com
    77 ls-lnews.com
    76 pulsedot.net
    79 firingsquid.com
    70 eigentime.com
    67 bayesianews.com
    66 lostdash.com
    64 newsping.com
    55 lowlevelnews.com
    52 newsignal.com
    50 crosslog.com
    44 salientnoise.com
    41 itarium.com
    40 uuengeek.com
    39 beardrhetoric.com
    39 silentmews.com
    38 yottatech.com
    37 nerddiscourse.com
    36 newsisyou.com
    36 boardkey.com
    35 nerdnewsnet.com
    33 freedivide.com
    32 fetanews.com
    29 omnidiscuss.com
    26 makemesmart.com
    25 minddivide.com
    22 saltdot.org
    22 newschattr.com
    21 noncorpnews.com
    21 gitgot.com
    21 absorbingnews.com
    20 squintfeed.com
    19 sigmanexus.com
    19 pipebeard.com
    18 futurians.com
    17 noncorporate.com
    16 salthash.com
    15 nerdgloss.com
    14 sigmavortex.com
    14 yottatalk.com
    14 chattrnews.com
    13 grepcutnews.com
    12 iorevolution.net
    12 deltachroma.com
    11 shpxurnq.com
    9 achetee.com
    9 gammavortex.com
    9 epsilonnexus.com
    9 dotsalt.org
    8 stealthnews.com
    8 newstat.com
    8 nntpping.com
    7 primedelta.com
    6 nunexus.com
    6 linevertex.com
    6 hecknews.com
    6 freedefy.com
    6 newuucp.com
    5 iotanexus.com
    4 newsconfig.com
    -
    (7839) (Total Points Used)

    The points are shown to illustrate how difficult it is to predict anything from the initial ranking phase. It may look like Soylent was a sure win from this, but in fact, if you look at the points, those used for names OTHER than soylent far outnumber the soylent votes. Since only a few names will make it into the final vote all those points will need to go somewhere...

    Now at this point we had to make a few decisions about the rules, some anticipated, some not.

    The anticipated one was that all the names would be checked and we would try to get possession of them in .com, .net, and org. Any we could not, would be removed from consideration.

    However, as it turned out, almost ALL the top choices would have been eliminated by this requirement. So we decided to relax that a bit to just the domains we ACTUALLY felt we needed, which were .org and .net. .com was less important, it is not like we were going to open a retail store...

    Then there were some problems that were not anticipated.

    The first one was that if we had to drop a name (and we did), the next name in line was newsgrep.com, which was nearly identical to grepnews.com - in fact they were deliberately submitted to be so, as an example. So a new rule was created: if two names are nearly identical, they get combined into one item, and if that item wins, a runoff is held between them.

    The next problem was that two of those names had potentially serious copyright problems. Soylent we expected, but with apt-get-news in the running, that was pretty closely associated with Debian/Ubuntu, and in particular, it could cause a problem with NCommander in his work situation which could be VERY awkward. (Think about it: your company makes a product called the XP100plus, and one of your employees starts a site called 'xp1000plus.com' that has NOTHING to do with your company or product...).

    At any moment, two of those names could be knocked out of the running, leaving us with a rather limited list for our runoff, consisting of

    sudonews.com
    grepnews.com
    newsgrep.com

    (if it happened after the list went out)

    Sort of a limited choice...

    So the next new rule was created: If a name has a copyright problem, another name will be added to the list as a backup in case that name gets knocked off the list later.

    So, with the new rules in mind, the runoff list from the community vote turned out to be:

    soylentnews.com
    sudonews.com
    grepnews.com (or newsgrep)
    apt-get-news.com
    dailybacon.net
    forkdot.org
    techmatter.com

    Now we needed to add the results of the staff top five to this, and delete any duplicates, to make up the final list that both staff and community would be voting on in the final round.

    So the staff vote was next...

    Starting Score:    1  point
    Karma-Bonus Modifier   +1  

    Total Score:   2