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posted by CoolHand on Wednesday February 10 2016, @06:43AM   Printer-friendly
from the reloading-our-ammo dept.

A group in Washington is promoting an initiative to reduce gun crime by using laser-etched bullets to track shooters. According to their website, the data will only be used for legitimate investigations (no datamining) and secured with "recursive verification" features (sounds like a blockchain). Washington state already requires ammunition purchasers to produce valid ID when making purchases. Googling reveals that previous efforts by state legislatures to enact similar legislation have been torpedoed by the gun lobby. Initiatives are not subject to lobbying, so it should be interesting to see how the opposition tackles this campaign.

http://dosomethingwa.org
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-guns-ammunition-idUSBRE90J02K20130120
http://igg.me/at/dosomethingwa


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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday February 11 2016, @08:49PM

    by c0lo (156) on Thursday February 11 2016, @08:49PM (#302949) Journal

    just because it doesn't work 100% of the time does not mean it's not worth doing.

    How many times do you have to be told: even if it works 100% of the time, it may not worth doing (due to the cost).

    (your position reminds me of some micromanagers that I encountered during my professional life: putting a burden on the team of reporting on daily activities and wondering why the things progress so slow towards completion)

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  • (Score: 2) by Gravis on Thursday February 11 2016, @09:26PM

    by Gravis (4596) on Thursday February 11 2016, @09:26PM (#302969)

    even if it works 100% of the time, it may not worth doing (due to the cost).

    which part of a simple database of sales is going to be costly? you act like we'll have to invent some sort of new technology just to incorporate it into the existing framework of our society/economy.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday February 11 2016, @11:15PM

      by c0lo (156) on Thursday February 11 2016, @11:15PM (#303003) Journal

      which part of a simple database of sales is going to be costly?

      That part in which the real-world transaction need to pause for the data to be recorded in the system. A big number of times.

      Even honest players will game the system to gain back their time, making the recorded data unreliable.

      Which, in turn, will cost the investigators effort to certify the data. So the investigators will use it only if everything fails.

      The result? Everybody pays for little benefit.

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      • (Score: 2) by Gravis on Friday February 12 2016, @01:53AM

        by Gravis (4596) on Friday February 12 2016, @01:53AM (#303052)

        That part in which the real-world transaction need to pause for the data to be recorded in the system. A big number of times.

        your ID lookup would take maybe 200 milliseconds but the storage transaction would take no time because it's an asynchronous database insertion. it would be a few extra seconds for people which would be used swiping their ID.

        The result? Everybody pays for little benefit.

        you can't spare a few seconds to help make more murder cases solvable? are you really that self-centered?

        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Friday February 12 2016, @05:26AM

          by c0lo (156) on Friday February 12 2016, @05:26AM (#303094) Journal

          your ID lookup would take maybe 200 milliseconds but the storage transaction would take no time because it's an asynchronous database insertion.

          Asynchronous my ass. The operation involves taking the bullet, scanning it, putting it aside, taking another and repeat. Yeah, I can really see this happening whenever a bullet (together with others) changes hands.

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          • (Score: 2) by Gravis on Friday February 12 2016, @05:49AM

            by Gravis (4596) on Friday February 12 2016, @05:49AM (#303101)

            Asynchronous my ass. The operation involves taking the bullet, scanning it, putting it aside, taking another and repeat. Yeah, I can really see this happening whenever a bullet (together with others) changes hands.

            bullets are sold in boxes, so it make a lot more sense to put a barcode identifying the box number on the outside and just push that info to the database. stop making this out to be some sort of monumental effort.

            • (Score: 1, Troll) by c0lo on Friday February 12 2016, @06:02AM

              by c0lo (156) on Friday February 12 2016, @06:02AM (#303104) Journal

              stop making this out to be some sort of monumental effort.

              (yeah, sure, seems wise)

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