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It has been a little while now that this fledgling community has been around and it remains one of my favorite stories about communities. A splinter of a much larger community took it upon themselves to challenge the rest and make a move to a new home. Shedding the shackles that were being placed on them was a bold move, but one that has been fantastic.
The community here is great, but here is my question. Overall, we are amazingly tolerant of others, of the choices they make, and of their beliefs. I would then be curious, if we are such a tolerant group, how do we address intolerance in our ranks? I recently came across what I can only say filled me with pity and sadness. I find it saddening that in this day and age, and especially in this group, there are still such hate-filled people.
But this poses a question: how does a group that is tolerant deal with intolerance within it's ranks? Does our acceptance of others extend to accepting someone that has thoughts and beliefs which are far from the norm within this community, or is there a limit placed on how far from our own values a member of the community may be?
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday April 13 2014, @10:33PM
Nope, I threw you a bone in yours so I could bring this up. You really, really seem to want to talk Klan. It's not a bad tactic; it brings up plenty of old hatred and gets you probably 50% of the people instantly on your side. Problem is, I'm not biting. It's just a way to spread more hate by false association.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Angry Jesus on Sunday April 13 2014, @10:46PM
> I'm not biting. It's just a way to spread more hate by false association.
If it is a false association, explain why it is false.
The klan deems one group of people to be unworthy of equal rights.
Anti-gay marriage people deem another group of people to be unworthy of equal rights.
An unsupported declaration that the analogy is false is the kind of cop-out that comes from cognitive dissonance.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday April 13 2014, @10:57PM
You should probably look up cognitive dissonance else I'll end up quoting Inigo Montoya at you and nobody would enjoy that.
The analogy is fine if your goal is falsely associating racism with not being a gay rights cheerleader. You're not asking for an open mind or the indifference that true equality manifests as, you're asking for cheerleaders and calling everyone else bigots. You're wanting to associate something most people agree on to this issue where you are in the minority. It's not a bad tactic, it's just too transparent a ploy for your current audience.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Angry Jesus on Sunday April 13 2014, @11:11PM
> The analogy is fine if your goal is falsely associating racism with not being a gay rights cheerleader.
The fact that an obvious case of discrimination has powerful connotations is not an argument against it being an accurate analogy to another form of discrimination.
> You're wanting to associate something most people agree on to this issue where you are in the minority.
Yeah, that's the entire point of an analogy - to show that a principle everybody agrees on applies in a situation that not everybody has figured out yet. In other words, if A is true and B is very much like A then B is also true.
The only point you've even come close to making is that comparing the kkk to prop-8 is a difference in degree but not in kind. Explain why there is a difference in kind or concede.