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posted by takyon on Friday March 25 2016, @05:04AM   Printer-friendly
from the truth-is-online dept.

Microsoft's new AI Twitter bot @tayandyou was shut down after only 24 hours after it began making "offensive" tweets.

The bot was built "by mining relevant public data and by using AI and editorial developed by a staff including improvisational comedians," and designed to target 18-24 year olds.

Shortly after the bot went live, it began making offensive tweets endorsing Nazism and genocide, among other things.

As of this submission, the bot has been shut down, and all but 3 tweets deleted.

The important question is whether or not it succeeded in passing the Turing test.

takyon: This bot sure woke fast, and produced much more logical sentence structures than @DeepDrumpf.


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  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @07:19AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @07:19AM (#322820)

    endorsing Nazism

    How is that a bad thing? Shows the writer is brain washed.

    and genocide

    Go to Soviet Communist Russia to learn the meaning of genocide. Or go to today's Communist countries to learn about apartheid and genocide.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Sir Finkus on Friday March 25 2016, @08:54AM

    by Sir Finkus (192) on Friday March 25 2016, @08:54AM (#322829) Journal

    How is that a bad thing? Shows the writer is brain washed.

    Ok Mr. GuyWithExtremistPosition, educate us.

    Hardmode: do it without telling us to read some book or watch a 56 part 5 hour long "documentary" on how the holocaust was a hoax. Put it in your own words.

    I'd hate to think I've had the wool pulled over my eyes all these years.

    Better yet, ignore the whole "kill all the Jews, gays, and Gypsies" part and tell me why Nazism is a good political philosophy and contrast it with other philosophies like representative democracies. What makes Nazism so great? I mean, I guess they're snappy dressers, and they were pretty good at making guns, tanks, and massive flags, but other than that little about Nazi society appeals to me. One could also easily dispute the societal merits of being good at making guns, tanks and massive flags. I'll grant the "snappy dressers" point.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @10:02AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @10:02AM (#322837)

      are you replying to the tay bot or what?

    • (Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @10:08AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @10:08AM (#322839)

      To sum it up: The victors tell the history. All historians agree that this is true -- Except when I state that this is true for WWII. Suddenly their sensibilities go out the window, even though it's common knowledge that black propaganda existed in WWII, and the narratives thereof continue today. Those that tell the truth are instantly "crazy", just like in the old soviet regime... over 80% of those in charge of the Bolshevik revolution were Jews, and 12 to 20 million Christians died at their hands... but we don't here any sob stories out of Hollywood about that, eh? Wonder why? Guess who runs Hollywood?

      Here, someone did some fact checking to get you started. [youtube.com]
      Even General Patton eventually came to realize his folly and said, "We fought the wrong enemy." and couldn't believe how low the allied forces had stooped as they starved millions of surrendered German POWs to death -- labeled them "enemy combatants" to get around the Geneva Convention rules about POWs.

      TL;DR: The European peoples were turned against themselves for the interests of the elite bankers. You got duped into killing those who should have been your best allies by the rich banking elite. There's a reason we fight Israel's wars for them.

      All wars are Bankers Wars, [youtube.com] Guess who these bankers are? Hitler fought to free his nation from a corrupt media establishment and predatory financial system, and guess what? He did it! And for that the world was turned against Germany, lest anyone else free their countries likewise. The same tribe of people Hitler fought are corrupting your finance, governments, education and media establishment today. Now you are doomed to repeat history and fight Hitler's fight again. If you're not bred out of extinction, maybe this time you'll win -- but only if you don't fight against your own interests. Damn near every country, Spain, England, etc. exiled the Jews... So did Germany. So fucking what? That's what happens when you act like them.

      I'm pretty sure I beat your hard mode, but you're still likely too brainwashed to investigate, seeing how you're already aware of "The Greatest Story Never Told", and yet dismiss it out of hand because of "muh TL;DR".

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @10:32AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @10:32AM (#322845)

      What makes Nazism so great?

      Bernie Sanders is a Socialist. Trump is a Nationalist. Hitler was Bernie and Trump Combined: National Socialist.

      "Nazi" is a slur to keep you from investigating National Socialism -- it was very different from other forms of socialism.

      In fact, you can't really have Socialism without Nationalism. Immigrants will just invade your open borders and bleed your earners dry via social programs.

      The great thing about National Socialism is the same great thing about Syria's Social Nationalist party... Guess why Syria must be destroyed? For the same reason the whole damn world went to war with Germany. Germany was in squalor, prostitution and drug abuse was rampant, everyone was poor. In 5 short years Germany, under National Socialism, became an economic powerhouse that nearly wiped the Communist threat and the predatory banking elite off the face of the earth... and dumb people like you tried to stop him because you believed propaganda.

      Basically, National Socialism is: Your nation helps its own people prosper first. That's the core idea. Your country is your extended family, and so the people who worked to build the nation should reap the benefits of their national heritage and way of life first. Hitler wanted all peoples to have their own national homelands, and have their own unique cultures and global diversity and strength through competition. Today's elites want everyone bred into a single muddy race with no racial or cultural differences, and they call the latter "diversity" rather than the former? Why is it only White countries that need to be "diversified", when whites make up 8% of the global population? No one is saying Africa needs to be more White... See? "Diversity" is code for Anti-White, and it's genocide by the UN and NATO definition of attempting to change or eradicate the racial makeup of a nation.

      It's not the Nazis who are insane, bub, it's people like you who can't even read a damn book on the thing you hate so much: National Socialism. The National Socialists were not genocidal. Hitler wanted to exile the subversives to The Galapagos islands where they could have their own country, everyone refused to take the Jewish migrants in WWII, because their countries had exiled them in the past!

      There's a reason why everyone's been trying to tell you that "Hitler Did Nothing Wrong!" -- It's not because they're edgy, but because you've got your fucking head in the sand and your media is controlled by those who hated and feared National Socialism so much that they eradicate any country approaching it and the freedom from usury it brings.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @05:22PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @05:22PM (#322979)

        so, in other words, national socialism is great. you just redefine the word "nation" to mean people who have the same faith and look like you and tell everyone else to gtfo. then when they can't gtfo, just kill them.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Spook brat on Friday March 25 2016, @05:49PM

        by Spook brat (775) on Friday March 25 2016, @05:49PM (#322996) Journal

        At the risk of feeding a troll, I'm going to give you a reasoned response, since it seems you're actually making an effort to rise to the level of civil discourse. Bear with me, I'm going to ignore several talking points that I think are irrelevant to the question at hand (the question being "what makes National Socialism great?").

        you can't really have Socialism without Nationalism. Immigrants will just invade your open borders and bleed your earners dry via social programs.

        This is an excellent starting argument, and an issue which many Socialist governments around the world are struggling with. The idea that "Strong fences make good neighbors" is quite old, and has a lot of buy-in across many cultures. The integration of Syrian refugees into Scandinavia is an amazing experiment in Socialism w/o Nationalism, and time will tell whether you are correct on this point. Please watch the news on this issue, a success in handling such a mass migration would serve as evidence counter to your position.

        The great thing about National Socialism is the same great thing about Syria's Social Nationalist party... Germany was in squalor, prostitution and drug abuse was rampant, everyone was poor. In 5 short years Germany, under National Socialism, became an economic powerhouse that nearly wiped the Communist threat and the predatory banking elite off the face of the earth...

        The Nazi Party undeniably did great things for the German economy. The centralization of power in pre-WWII Germany granted its government amazing efficiency, and the social improvements made were extremely popular. There were many Americans who openly praised the Germans for their success, and speculated about how we could achieve similar results in the United States. Good job on bringing the strong arguments first! As long as we're clear that the method for achieving that efficiency was shifting the political compass [politicalcompass.org] in the Authoritarian direction (i.e. away from Libertarian), this is a strong point in the "good" favor for National Socialism.

        Basically, National Socialism is: Your nation helps its own people prosper first. That's the core idea. Your country is your extended family, and so the people who worked to build the nation should reap the benefits of their national heritage and way of life first. Hitler wanted all peoples to have their own national homelands, and have their own unique cultures and global diversity and strength through competition.

        This is where your argument falls apart. All of those things sound great on paper, but it is a rose-colored view of the realities of Nazi Germany. The devil, as always, is in the details. First, how do you determine who is "racially pure" enough to qualify for citizenship status under such a system? Where do you draw the border for your racially pure utopia? Are the Alsatians German or French? How do you treat citizens who marry foreigners? How do you treat their children? How do you treat foreign permanent residents? How do you treat semi-permanent transient residents, like Romani/Roma (gypsies), who consider themselves a separate culture from the countries where they live? If your answers to the "how do you treat" questions range from "poorly" to "steal their property and deport them" to "round them up and exterminate them", then you and I are going to have a problem.

        Let's take a look at how Hitler handled those situations just prior to WWII. [wikipedia.org] In reference to a region of Poland with mixed German and Polish heritage, he gave the following lines:

        The object of the war is ... to physically to destroy the enemy. That is why I have prepared, for the moment only in the East, my 'Death's Head' formations with orders to kill without pity or mercy all men, women, and children of Polish descent or language. Only in this way can we obtain the living space we need.

        So, German + Polish descent = death sentence. German descent + Polish language = death sentence. That does not match with your statement "Hitler wanted all peoples to have their own national homelands, and have their own unique cultures and global diversity and strength through competition." Unless by "competition" you meant racial purging and genocide through warfare, that is. Xenophobia is cowardice, and a desire for "Lebensraum" [wikipedia.org] is no excuse for murderous rampages.

        I believe that everyone deserves to be treated with dignity and respect regardless of their parentage (which they didn't get to choose). I'd be good with the National Socialist agenda if it didn't get so thoroughly mixed with Harry Potter-esque concepts of "mudblood". If you're going to say "the people who worked to build the nation should reap the benefits of their national heritage and way of life first", then please make the attempt to recognize who is doing that building - they may not have the same great^n grandfather as you. And for goodness' sake, if you say you want other people to be strong and separate, respect their rights to keep their lives, liberties, and property. Otherwise you're just being disingenuous.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @06:16PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @06:16PM (#323014)

          Xenophobia is cowardice, and a desire for "Lebensraum" is no excuse for murderous rampages

          Israel has done that since 1948 is doing that even today. With full, unconditional help from outside. And it gets to play the victim too.

          Check the news to see what they do. [rt.com] I don't see many condemning their criminal actions.

          • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Spook brat on Friday March 25 2016, @07:56PM

            by Spook brat (775) on Friday March 25 2016, @07:56PM (#323058) Journal

            Sorry, I'm confused; how does that argue in favor of National Socialism as a political/societal system? Actions taken after 1945 should have had no influence over the Nazi Party's actions or policies (unless Hitler invented a time machine). If you're attempting to justify concentration camps by using Israeli atrocities as examples, then I'm not sure if if you're committing the Bandwagon fallacy [yourlogicalfallacyis.com] or the Tu Quoque [yourlogicalfallacyis.com]; I'm not going to rule out non-sequitur, either.

            Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to reject the position that National Socialism can be good as a result of your post (there's a name for that fallacy, [yourlogicalfallacyis.com] too). This is the hardmode thread, so if you want to convince us that your position is correct you'll need to do better than a chain of logical fallacies. Also, please remember that since you are making the assertion ("National Socialism is Good™") that the burden of proof [yourlogicalfallacyis.com] is on you.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @09:54PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @09:54PM (#323098)

              The post "Israel has done that since 1948..." is mine. The parent of your long post is another AC.

              I was connecting your accusations to events of today, so you can understand what you are accusing the National Socialists of. Something very evil is being committed by Israel today, of which there is good amounts of proof. No one can ever deny the atrocities being committed by the Jews today.

              On the other hand, there is no proof that war crimes were committed by National Socialists, especially the Holocaust. Not one piece of paper contains the order to murder Jews. Not a single one.

              In your earlier post:

              The object of the war is ... to physically to destroy the enemy. That is why I have prepared, for the moment only in the East, my 'Death's Head' formations with orders to kill without pity or mercy all men, women, and children of Polish descent or language. Only in this way can we obtain the living space we need.

              That quote may be totally fake.
              Fake 1 [wikipedia.org]
              Fake 2 [tallarmeniantale.com]
              Fake 3 [tetedeturc.com]

              ... are making the assertion ("National Socialism is Good")

              As another AC said:

              Basically, National Socialism is: Your nation helps its own people prosper first. That's the core idea.

              It might take you some time to understand what is good about a system. An internet post may not be enough. Look for material relating to National Socialism. Its your life after all.

              • (Score: 2) by Spook brat on Monday March 28 2016, @06:19PM

                by Spook brat (775) on Monday March 28 2016, @06:19PM (#324018) Journal

                The post "Israel has done that since 1948..." is mine. The parent of your long post is another AC.

                Thanks for the clarification. I'll continue to group all AC responses under the Plural "you", as a collective you're all engaging in the same debate on the same side, so I'll consider you a loosely affiliated team. I'll try to address the points in a post on their own merits, while reserving the right to consider parent/grandparent/etc posts in the same thread as valid context for the conversation. If you need to step away from a previous point please say so explicitly. Hard mode :)

                I was connecting your accusations to events of today, so you can understand what you are accusing the National Socialists of.

                So, you're going with Non Sequitur; thanks for clarifying. I'll restate my position on this argument: xenophobia is cowardice, and is no excuse for murder. I have made no justification of any actions taken by the state of Israel, and am willing to apply my asserted values to anyone falling afoul of them. Meanwhile, all actions of the Israeli government are irrelevant to a discussion of the policies etc. of the German National Socialist (Nazi) party under Hitler, since the state of Israel came into existence after his death.

                On the other hand, there is no proof that war crimes were committed by National Socialists, especially the Holocaust. Not one piece of paper contains the order to murder Jews. Not a single one.

                Look for material relating to National Socialism. Its your life after all.

                You appear to be attempting to shift the burden of proof. [yourlogicalfallacyis.com] It's not my job to find evidence to support your position; again, hard mode. Bonus points for claiming that there is no proof to be obtained, which would be nifty for you if it were true. I'll throw you a bone, and point you in the right direction again.

                • "Not one piece of paper contains the order to murder Jews."
                  The Nuremberg trials [wikipedia.org] came to a different conclusion, after reviewing the evidence at hand. This included eyewitness testimony of people claiming to be ordered to commit murders, and defense statements admitting to the murders as points of fact. Since these are the facts generally accepted by the world at large, your claim that there is no evidence is specious. The burden is on you to explain why you believe no murders occurred when Nuremberg defendants (e.g. Otto Ohlendorf and Abraham Sutzkever) testified under oath that they themselves committed or ordered to commit such murders. If you are hanging the truth of your statements on the point of written orders you are again either dissembling [dictionary.com] or incredibly self-deceived.
                   
                  As an aside, if you'd like to argue about the legitimacy of the Nuremberg proceedings please address that as a separate topic. I'm referring to them here only as a point of reference for historical evidence, of which you claimed there was none.
                • "That quote may be totally fake."
                  Whether the quote is fake or not, it accurately describes the actions of Hitler's army over the next few weeks. For the sake of clarity, are you asserting that because the statement I quoted cannot be conclusively attributed to Hitler that the Invasion of Poland [wikipedia.org] did not occur? The modern Poland-Germany border suggests otherwise.
                • ". . . so you can understand what you are accusing the National Socialists of. . ."
                  Please re-read my previous posts. What I accused the National Socialists of was mistreating outsiders; specifically French/German Alsatians, Polish/German Poles, and Gypsies. By asserting that no orders were given to murder Jews you completely missed the point of the argument and failed to support your position in a meaningful way. Don't worry, because we're playing hard mode I don't get to play games either; making an invalid argument does not make your assertion incorrect. [yourlogicalfallacyis.com] You get all the chances you want to make a valid argument, I'll wait.
                   
                  Let's also be clear about what I'm accusing the National Socialists of. They committed many well-documented atrocities [wikipedia.org] against outsiders under the guise of doing what's best for the insiders. The logic seemed to go "we should do good things for Racially Pure Germans; therefore, conversely, we should do bad things to people who are not Racially Pure Germans". Note that being born with a defect, such as mental or physical disability, was evidence of being "not Racially Pure" and therefore subject to infanticide at birth or extermination as an adult, [wikipedia.org] regardless of genealogy. This goes far beyond "Your nation helps its own people prosper first" as a value; however, it is a natural conclusion of stepping on that path as a society. The scary thing isn't that so many disabled people died, it's that it makes sense in the context of National Socialism, and was both effective and efficient as a method for improving the national economy and quality of life for the able-bodied Racially Pure. Xenophobia appears to be a necessary ingredient for National Socialism, and a direct cause of the perceived evils of the Nazi regime. Since you appear to be struggling, I'll suggest that your counter-argument should be to somehow show that I'm committing a False Cause fallacy, [yourlogicalfallacyis.com] and demonstrating that either (a) Xenophobia is not necessary for National Socialism, or (b) that a Xenophobic National Socialist government will not necessarily persecute outsiders. Good luck!
    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @11:59AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @11:59AM (#322863)

      I guess they're snappy dressers, and they were pretty good at making guns

      National Socialism is not particular to any one country, race or culture. You can be a black in Africa and also a National Socialist. You can pray to any God and be a National Socialist.

      The German National Socialists (Hitler's party) dressed well (and everyone should!) because being clean and wearing clean clothes is a healthy practice. Clean, pressed clothes impresses the onlookers and they get interested in finding out more about these people who dress up well, are clean, engage in healthy activities and are not usurers (among many other positive qualities). Dressing like a thug (today's marketing) shows one is not cultured and this practice is promoted because they (your enemies) want to destroy whatever culture you have left.

      One could also easily dispute the societal merits of being good at making guns, tanks and massive flags

      The Germans under National Socialism (Hitler's party) did not start rearmament until 16 March, 1936. Then years later, when the threat from Communism could no longer be ignored and action had to be taken immediately, military spending was increased. It was Now or Never.

      National Socialism is a wonderful system. Those who live under it become converts.
      Did you know that many Germans committed suicides at the end of WW II because they did not want to live in a world without National Socialism?

      The enemies of National Socialism control your media, banks and life. You cannot ignore what is being done to you, but they program you so you get conditioned and accept what is being done to you. Look outside to see the your country swimming in outsiders, who are there only for the easy money.

      The Jews indeed cannot allow such a healthy system free of parasites, which does not help them get richer.

      I'd hate to think I've had the wool pulled over my eyes all these years.

      Yes, indeed you've been duped. When you wake up, people will call you a 'Nazi', thinking its something bad.

      • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday March 25 2016, @04:28PM

        by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 25 2016, @04:28PM (#322950) Journal

        National Socialism is a wonderful system. Those who live under it become converts.

        Including those put in concentration camps?

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @05:19PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 25 2016, @05:19PM (#322974)

          Many concentration camp workers used to sneak out at night and come back before morning to enjoy the pleasures of outside. It was tolerated. Concentration camps were not prisons or death camps as Jewish media would have you believe. When the Russians were about to overrun a camp, those being treated in the Concentration Camp hospital were asked if they wanted to leave with the Germans or wait for the Russians. They would chose to go with the 'evil nazis' instead of waiting for the Russians to liberate them.

          I guess they did not want to be liberated from National Socialism. Many Concentration Camp workers (not all) later made up stories in order to play the victim and collect checks for life. Those who deny anything bad or inhumane happened at the camps were silenced.

          • (Score: 2) by Spook brat on Friday March 25 2016, @08:08PM

            by Spook brat (775) on Friday March 25 2016, @08:08PM (#323065) Journal

            Those are some impressive claims, do you have references for them that I can check?

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          • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Friday March 25 2016, @08:17PM

            by maxwell demon (1608) Subscriber Badge on Friday March 25 2016, @08:17PM (#323067) Journal

            Err … are you speaking about the people imprisoned at the camps, or about the people working there (guards etc.)? The latter certainly were allowed to go outside, and I'm pretty sure those indeed would have preferred that National Socialism would have prevailed. The former, not so much.

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