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Journal by takyon
The Culture That Created Donald Trump Was Liberal, Not Conservative
EgyptAir hijack: Man surrenders at Larnaca airport
Falkland Islands fears new ruling expanding Argentina's sea control
Can Micro Bit replicate BBC Micro success?
Pet insurance claims hit record number
US pulls Tanzanian aid worth $470m over Zanzibar vote
White House to commit $116m to heroin and opioid abuse epidemic
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Don't tell me that worry doesn't do any good. I know better. The things
I worry about don't happen.
-- Watchman Examiner
(Score: 3, Interesting) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday March 29 2016, @01:27PM
The reason Trump has any popularity at all is simply this: Pretty much all libertarians and most conservatives absolutely despise what the Republican party has become. Offer them any other choice and they will take it as a "fuck you" to the Republican establishment if for no other reason.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Tuesday March 29 2016, @01:41PM
The link talks about Trump's pre-Apprentice origins, not today's political climate. Liberals put Trump in a position that allowed him to exploit today's fatigue towards the Republican establishment.
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(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 29 2016, @06:22PM
So the argument is that he got onto TV and published some books, therefore, it's the liberals fault?
Here's a clue: liberals don't actually decide what get published in book form or what reality TV shows are allowed on the air.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday March 29 2016, @08:10PM
Gotta disagree there. The entertainment industry, country music aside, is overwhelmingly liberal. Moreso than even the MSM which was over 80% self-identifying liberal last I checked.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday March 29 2016, @08:55PM
Even if the statistic you just pulled from your nether regions is true that still leave 20% of the media that has the ability to approve terrible reality shows and crappy books.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 30 2016, @01:15AM
The rank and file are.
...though I'm not so sure about "overwhelmingly".
There are folks in that lot who appeared normal to me (e.g. Dennis Hopper) who I found out supported Republicans.
Robert Taylor infamously cooperated with the McCarthyites and couldn't wait to name names.
The folks who hand out the marching orders and who can deep-six your project, however, strike me as mostly Plantation Capitalists with no particular commitment to civil liberties.
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I read the linked article (TheIntercept) before I saw this journal post.
I said "WTF? How did this guy's stuff get approved by that site?"
CNN was mentioned several times as "Liberal".
CNN is pro-Plantation Capitalist and pro-Authoritarian.
Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting is constantly calling them out on their bullshit.
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Pretty much all libertarians and most conservatives absolutely despise what the Republican party has become
Well, "Conservative" and "Radical" are opposites and over the last 8 years, as the Donkeys have shifted toward Crony Capitalism and Authoritarianism, they've taken the spot that the GOP used to hold [politicalcompass.org]--while the latest among "The party of Lincoln" (heh) have closed in on the Totally Fascist corner. [politicalcompass.org]
country music aside
Yeah. I once thought Larry Gatlin was normal.
...then I heard him talking politics.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by Non Sequor on Wednesday March 30 2016, @02:20AM
I dislike the notion of absolute political axes, but I view current Democrats as largely serving the role of watchdogs over past left victories. Eventually the Democrats are going to split when people figure out what a new American left looks like. I think people who want the new American left to look like the European left will probably still be disappointed though.
The Republicans are where they are because the baby boomers have hit the stage of the human life cycle where people are most conservative and most involved in politics. The next generation into that slot following them isn't going to be as large and may abandon some aspects of the current Republican platform. The Republican party as we know it is going to die out, and that's a good thing because the current Republican notion of an innovative conservative is toxic.
I find this stuff interesting, although I'm not terribly personally invested in any particular outcome. I'm more of an non-archist.
Write your congressman. Tell him he sucks.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 30 2016, @04:02AM
The Donkeys are NOT "Left".
They never have been.
Click my 2008 link and see where they were 8 years ago (Right-Center).
They're also on the Authoritarian side of the horizontal line that separates them from Civil Libertarians (aka not Progressive either).
...and they have continued to drift toward the Plantation Capitalist edge and toward the police state edge since then.
The Donkeys have NEVER been about "the collective ownership of the means of production".
They have always been supporters of Capitalism.
As for European "Leftists", as soon as SYRIZA in Greece took power, they sold out the Working Class, imposing the austerity against which they had campaigned.
Podemos in Spain doesn't appear to be any better.
The "Leftist" mayors in Madrid and Barcelona appear to be pro-austerity as well.
Seattle's "socialist" city council member Kshama Sawant has been widely criticized in Socialist media for her Capitalist rhetoric.
As soon as modern self-professed "Leftists" get into office, they lose their spines.
Wanna see a "Leftist"?
Look up Eugene Debs.
(He ran for president while he was a political prisoner of Woodrow Wilson.)
N.B. Bernie has a portrait of Debs on his office wall but the 2 of them would be far apart if charted according to their politics.
...and Bernie's "joining" the Donkeys was simply a matter of political convenience; he's always been an Independent.
It simply indicates how screwed up USA's electoral system is.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by Non Sequor on Wednesday March 30 2016, @12:27PM
Left and right are just basis vectors that span a range of discourse. A unified theory of right and left that remains fixed across all time and space is kind of a silly thing that people get caught up in when they're particularly enamored of a particular political philosophy and they look to define all political thought in terms of its support for or opposition to that philosophy.
Write your congressman. Tell him he sucks.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 30 2016, @06:05PM
Your premise assumes that political thinking is
1) One dimensional
2) Binary in nature (no wishy-washy Center positions)
I attribute this limited concept to getting "information" from Lamestream Media, who are
1) Lazy
2) Beholding to their ideologically-driven advertisers|owners
...and, again, "Left" means that someone is anti-Capitalist in nature.
If an individual's philosophy does NOT include the concept of "collective ownership of the means of production", he is on the Right-hand side of the political palate.
...and WRT e.g. the USA's Libertarian Party vs the Socialist Workers Party, the concept of personal liberty (progressiveness) is clearly a separate value that does not track one's economic philosophy and belongs on a separate axis.
-- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 2) by Bot on Thursday March 31 2016, @07:57PM
Credit where it's due. Blame Berlusconi for Trump. He showed the world it could be done. Even the current PM Renzi uses his tactics.
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