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posted by cmn32480 on Monday May 02 2016, @12:22PM   Printer-friendly
from the secret-negotiations-are-always-good-for-the-people dept.

Apparently, Greenpeace got their hands on a version of the TTIP documents and plans to release them to the public at today, Monday 2nd of May, 11:00am (UTC+2) from Netherlands, while at the same time giving a press conference at the re:publica. While Greenpeace is apparently mainly concerned about the loss of the precautionary principle (in Europe, if a product is thought to pose a risk to the population or environment, it is prohibited until proven safe, as opposed to the US where it is permitted until proven harmful. According to Greenpeace (sorry, only in German), this is a reason that in US, 170 genetically manipulated plants are in the agricultural market, while in Europe it is only one.

While these mainly environmental concerns deserve some consideration, the more fundamental issue is that such a far-reaching contract, invalidating many of hard fought-for consumers rights in one coup and affecting half a billion people alone in Europe, is negotiated secretly. This is entirely unworthy of any democratic government system.

The documents are available for download.


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  • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Tuesday May 03 2016, @11:30AM

    by cubancigar11 (330) on Tuesday May 03 2016, @11:30AM (#340776) Homepage Journal

    There is a practical way to break this cycle - to stop playing the game. Stop respecting law and break all societal relationships.

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  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Tuesday May 03 2016, @01:25PM

    by Thexalon (636) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 03 2016, @01:25PM (#340822)

    That doesn't break the cycle, that's part of the cycle (the anarchy stage).

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    • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Wednesday May 04 2016, @02:06AM

      by cubancigar11 (330) on Wednesday May 04 2016, @02:06AM (#341173) Homepage Journal

      Not really. Even in the state of anarchy, a player is supposed to have babies and protect and provide for his family. What I am talking about is abandoning the idea of society itself.

      • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Wednesday May 04 2016, @02:40AM

        by Thexalon (636) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 04 2016, @02:40AM (#341185)

        If you (and everybody else) reject the idea of society, then each person is deciding on their own what to do, with no social rules or laws or anything else like that. Which means that nobody is in charge, which is the definition of anarchy.

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