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Late Wednesday, Brown signed the bill raising the age for tobacco use, including vaping, to 21, the Associated Press reports. He also vetoed a bill that would have asked voters to divert tobacco taxes to pay for the health expenses of those with tobacco-related ailments, according to the Los Angeles Times.
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(Score: 2) by dyingtolive on Thursday May 05 2016, @11:32PM
To be fair, it's generally much more pleasant to smell as I'm walking by the 30 feet outside the "designating smoking area" (that no one actually stands in) at work as opposed to regular cigarette smoke.
I don't disagree with the rest of it, though. No one wants to smell your stinky ashtray ass after you get back in from sucking down ANYTHING pungent every 15 minutes, and say that myself being a smoker. If you can't manage your addiction for at least eight hours before needing to sustain it, you should probably work on that.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by edIII on Friday May 06 2016, @12:38AM
The smell may be slightly better, but the chemical and biological dangers are the same. In fact, they're far worse. The complete morons that vapers are, allows them to ignore the fact that the flavored nicotine bottle they're loading from indicates levels much higher than a single cig. So that innocuous smell is accompanied by more nicotine than a chain smoker may get in a day. I'm not interested in being in a de facto room with dozens of chain smokers. I had this argument many times with a cousin that refused to stop doing it, even in the house. Constant yelling at him to get him to stop.
I just can't stand them acting as if it's different, and somehow more acceptable. Own it, accept it, and deal with the limitations of your vice. Myself, I smoke weed. A lot. Out in public too. In front of cops. Don't care, as I have a medical need not met by the United States' wonderful and comprehensive health care for its citizens.
That being said, I find places that are remote where other people aren't going to be. I like to make sure there is a lot of wind (dissipation), and that it won't stink up an area for others. If I'm walking down a neighborhood I check for open windows, children playing, how hot is it, etc. I sincerely don't want to put anyone out, or impose upon them in anyway, because I wish to enjoy marijuana. Additionally, second hand highs are a real thing. I got somebody high one time just from a puff that went past their face, and they weren't really prepared to be high, or able to deal with it very well. So I'm careful for good reason.
I would only ask that the nicotine/vape smokers be as considerate of others around them. Strangely, I'm reminded of Jim Varney (Earnest P. Worrel) who was an avid chain smoker. Yet, he was extremely careful to make sure a child never saw him do it, or the smoke ever got around anyone not wanting it.
This vaping bullshit is being used an excuse to just basically be an inconsiderate asshole to others. By all appearances, it's not smoking, so it's perfectly fine is the popular refrain. The bitching that they're "oppressed" just set me off, as if it's a Constitutional right to expose others to dangerous or unknown chemicals with no regard for the safety or well being of others.
Sorry, but fuck vapers. Fuck them in the donkey asshole :) (line from a movie)
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 06 2016, @08:40AM
>Myself, I smoke weed
Jesus Christ, and you're bitching about the smell of cigarettes. What the fuck? Get off your high horse, man. Do you have any idea how much weed stinks, and how you affect other people with your weed smoke? You're just as bad as the nicotine junkies, you just burn different stuff.
(Score: 2) by edIII on Friday May 06 2016, @07:09PM
Irrelevant. When I smoke weed I'm very far away from everyone else. It's even windy most of the time. If necessary, I take a shower after smoking, but that rarely is unless I've "hot boxed" it in a room or car. Again, that room or car is my property, so I'm removing myself from everyone else. Anytime there is somebody else to be affected, the most that they're upset about is the lack of passing the joint/bong.
You act as if I would smoke weed in a movie theater, a plane, or a restaurant. Never in a million years, especially since weed can be consumed. However, some vapers are insistent that they can do just that.
I'm not on a high horse, as I'm extremely careful about my use, and extremely aware and considerate of those around me when I do so. I don't allow the smoke to affect other people, so you're statement is irrelevant and baseless.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 3, Informative) by mcgrew on Friday May 06 2016, @06:06PM
The smell may be slightly better, but the chemical and biological dangers are the same.
Incorrect. The only thing the same is nicotine, which isn't what causes the cancer, COPD, or heart disease associated with smoking. Safe? Doubtful, but I'd bet money they're nowhere near as dangerous as cigarettes. And there is a slight smell, but nothing like cigarette smoke. I can smell a cigarette a block away outside, e-cig only in an enclosed room. And the smoke is much more obnoxious.
It is different. "Acceptable" is a personal preference. If you use the things and ar around someone who doesn't like them, use patches or lozenges.
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