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posted by n1 on Thursday May 05 2016, @09:45PM   Printer-friendly
from the magical-numbers dept.

Late Wednesday, Brown signed the bill raising the age for tobacco use, including vaping, to 21, the Associated Press reports. He also vetoed a bill that would have asked voters to divert tobacco taxes to pay for the health expenses of those with tobacco-related ailments, according to the Los Angeles Times.

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  • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Friday May 06 2016, @12:11PM

    by LoRdTAW (3755) on Friday May 06 2016, @12:11PM (#342519) Journal

    I think you posted before having your morning coffee.

    1) IT STILL HAS FUCKING NICOTINE. Meaning, that if you think you can smoke that around me differently than a cigarette, the ensuing scuffle, cops, and court cases will educate you otherwise.

    NOT ALWAYS! Some people vape non nicotine based fluids. Also... Sit down down, tough guy.

    2) IT STILL FUCKING STINKS. Currently, I'm not allowed to burn incense anywhere I damn well please. Likewise, I can't just place an oil essence burner anywhere I want. Moreover, we still give shit to people that stink so bad in public that nobody else can find peace.

    Stinks? What vaping have you smelled? The few guys at work who vape have fluids which smell like a candy factory or bakery. Nothing unpleasant about that. I'm beginning to think you have either no idea what vaping is, or you just want to rail on something for no reason other than "It's different so I don't like it." Drink your coffee tough guy.

    I agree, I don't want to be right next to some person exhaling big clouds of water vapor out of their bodies. Kinda gross. But, it far, far more pleasant than actual cigarette smoke which really does stink, sticks to everything and is almost guaranteed to cause health issues. The people I know who vape are all former cigarette smokers. My only issue is the vaping is probably worse as they can play with the nicotine dosages and heavy pulls will introduce far more nicotine than a cigarette can. So instead of becoming less dependant, they are becoming more dependant.

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  • (Score: 2) by edIII on Friday May 06 2016, @07:29PM

    by edIII (791) on Friday May 06 2016, @07:29PM (#342685)

    NOT ALWAYS! Some people vape non nicotine based fluids. Also... Sit down down, tough guy.

    Most of the time it is with nicotine, and I can't tell when it isn't. Am I supposed to ask every fucking asshole doing it in a theater or restaurant for their bottle to read the ingredients? Will there be posted signs now in certain places indicating what vaping fluids are acceptable?

    No, I will not sit down. If you do it in a theater, restaurant, or plane, you've made a captured audience out of me. I don't like that. It's not right that their movie ticket is more important than my movie ticket. So, yes, I will go nuts and involve the cops if required as they only way they will continue vaping is out of their asshole where I shove their device.

    Stinks? What vaping have you smelled? The few guys at work who vape have fluids which smell like a candy factory or bakery. Nothing unpleasant about that. I'm beginning to think you have either no idea what vaping is, or you just want to rail on something for no reason other than "It's different so I don't like it." Drink your coffee tough guy.

    I've unfortunately been subject to it plenty of times from inconsiderate people in public (especially the theater, or restaurants), and yes I find the smell highly unpleasant. It may smell sweet superficially, but the knowledge of the nicotine and chemicals provides the complete absence of joy and peace. I don't want it around me, and there are no justifications that they get to do so.

    The people I know who vape are all former cigarette smokers. My only issue is the vaping is probably worse as they can play with the nicotine dosages and heavy pulls will introduce far more nicotine than a cigarette can. So instead of becoming less dependant, they are becoming more dependant.

    There you go. We can talk about degrees, but we're still talking about nicotine. Actually, we may not even be talking about that either, but marijuana again. I've tried a couple of vape pens with marijuana, and you wouldn't know until your stoned. I don't want to be stoned unless I'm prepared to be, and I've made arrangements for things to be handled (who's on call).

    Even if we come down to just smells, how on earth is that acceptable in a theater? I can ask to remove somebody if they smell too bad, but it's a different level when you turn yourself into a smell factory.

    That's my real problem. I will never find it acceptable that it can be done next to people in most public spaces. A park or something is one thing, but all of my problems are in enclosed spaces. If the vapers just stopped in the enclosed spaces everything would probably be better between me and them. Until they do, I'm going to nuclear every single time, and kick ass if required.

    Vaping at any level in enclosed public spaces isn't acceptable. If it becomes so, then I will create my own portable incense burners and we can engage in a war of smells. One with no winners.

    The few guys at work who vape have fluids which smell like a candy factory or bakery.

    Yes, and that usage occurs in designated places that don't affect me. I'm not subject to it at my office from anyone else, and there are even laws preventing it.

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