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posted by martyb on Wednesday May 11 2016, @04:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the just-the-facts,-ma'am dept.

The Washington Post reports on a video from the television series Last Week Tonight with John Oliver regarding flaws in science and in reporting about science.

Topics touched upon by Mr. Oliver include p-hacking, exploratory studies vs. confirmational studies, press releases, the "telephone" effect, animal testing, oversimplification, industry funding, sample sizes, and TED talks.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @06:39PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @06:39PM (#344801)

    I've seen John Oliver around for years, I used to like him. I won't watch anything he does after watching his smear campaign against Donald Trump. If you don't like his ideas, explain why, have a meaningful discussion. Instead he spent 50 minutes calling him various ad hominem, but that seems to be how everyone debates issues in the media as of lately. I don't like Liberal brits coming over the the USA telling us to be more like them, albeit John doesn't do it very much. He certainly isn't a Peirs Morgan.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @06:48PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @06:48PM (#344804)

    Instead he spent 50 minutes calling him various ad hominem, but that seems to be how everyone debates issues in the media as of lately.

    He (Trump) started it! [youtu.be]

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @07:03PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @07:03PM (#344813)

      Trump fights fire with fire, and it works for him.

  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @07:42PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @07:42PM (#344829)

    I agree with you on the Trump thing. If he would do the same with Sanders and Hillary that would make him at least somewhat less subjective about it. He seemed too emotionally involved to make a proper discussion about it. It is one of the things I do not like about these sorts of shows. They have *very* good points. But they all suddenly take on this 'THE DNC IS GODS GIFT TO THE WORLD YOU MUST DO WHATEVER THEY SAY' vibe. The other side is just as ridiculous and sanctimonious yet they leave them alone. Rush Limbaugh has made a career out of it doing the exact same thing they do but just for 'the other team'. It is why I find his show just as screechy and awful.

    I have found most of his opinions to be very thought provoking and usually fairly well informed even if I do not agree with him on everything.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by tibman on Wednesday May 11 2016, @07:44PM

    by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 11 2016, @07:44PM (#344831)

    Pretty sure John did that because Trump was poking fun at him first. It's actually in John Oliver's best interest to poke "important" people with thin skin because it increases his viewership when the thin skinned person inevitably gets outraged. He pokes fun at nearly everyone though, even his viewers.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @07:51PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @07:51PM (#344836)

      I understand that it was a good business decision and it drew him a lot of attention and he probably sold a lot of hats, but it by no way showed any integrity and made me lose all respect for him. He could have just responded to the issue, but he decided to do a 50 minute hit piece that left every person listening more misinformed than they were an hour before.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @09:51PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @09:51PM (#344896)

        No, you're just butthurt. First you complain about Oliver because he was picking on poor Donald. Then, after it was pointed out to you that he was in fact responding to worse treatment dished out by Trump, you now criticize him for not ignoring him.

        Look, if you want your butt-buddy Donnie to be President, you need to realize that he can't go around shooting his mouth off like that without taking some back on himself.

        • (Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @10:34PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @10:34PM (#344920)

          Stopped reading at "butt hurt". Learn to form an argument without ad hominem if you want anyone to actually listen to you.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 12 2016, @02:08AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 12 2016, @02:08AM (#344986)

            I listened to him and totally agree with what he said.
            You just seem butt hurt that facts got in the way of you Donald love.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 12 2016, @05:02AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 12 2016, @05:02AM (#345054)

            Argumentative fallacies aren't fallacies because they are wrong, they're fallacies because they don't create compelling arguments. At the same time, accusing the poster you're debating with of using a fallacy is not some kind of instant win, and you don't get to ignore his or her points just because you can't address them.

          • (Score: 5, Touché) by Tork on Thursday May 12 2016, @07:02AM

            by Tork (3914) on Thursday May 12 2016, @07:02AM (#345100)

            Learn to form an argument without ad hominem if you want anyone to actually listen to you.

            Now that is an unexpected position for a Trump supporter to take.

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            • (Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Friday May 13 2016, @10:13AM

              by cubancigar11 (330) on Friday May 13 2016, @10:13AM (#345588) Homepage Journal

              Did I just miss or publicly shaming people for being not politically-correct was something conservatives started?

              Or liberals just can't take the medicine they give others?

              • (Score: 2) by Tork on Friday May 13 2016, @04:45PM

                by Tork (3914) on Friday May 13 2016, @04:45PM (#345723)
                Nah, all you missed was one AC not following through on his principles. Not the fault of anyone else.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @07:51PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 11 2016, @07:51PM (#344837)

    I've seen John Oliver around for years, I used to like him. I won't watch anything he does after watching his smear campaign against Donald Trump. If you don't like his ideas, explain why, have a meaningful discussion.

    Well played, AC! Challenge your opposition to an impossible task! Explain why you don't like Trump's ideas? Ha ha ha! "Trump's ideas"!! Oh, that's a good one! Very funny! Ideas and "Trump" in the same sentence! Ha ha ah ha!!!
    Almost as good as saying that before you pass through these woods, you must chop down the tallest tree in the forest, . . . with a herring!

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 13 2016, @06:51AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 13 2016, @06:51AM (#345553)

    > calling him various ad hominem

    If you don't know how to correctly use an expression, please don't use it incorrectly, you display nothing but ignorance so doing.