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posted by CoolHand on Monday May 23 2016, @12:44AM   Printer-friendly
from the wrist-slapping dept.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/22/how-pentagon-punished-nsa-whistleblowers

[There] is another man whose story has never been told before, who is speaking out publicly for the first time here. His name is John Crane, and he was a senior official in the Department of Defense who fought to provide fair treatment for whistleblowers such as Thomas Drake – until Crane himself was forced out of his job and became a whistleblower as well. His testimony reveals a crucial new chapter in the Snowden story – and Crane's failed battle to protect earlier whistleblowers should now make it very clear that Snowden had good reasons to go public with his revelations.

During dozens of hours of interviews, Crane told me how senior Defense Department officials repeatedly broke the law to persecute Drake. First, he alleged, they revealed Drake's identity to the Justice Department; then they withheld (and perhaps destroyed) evidence after Drake was indicted; finally, they lied about all this to a federal judge. The supreme irony? In their zeal to punish Drake, these Pentagon officials unwittingly taught Snowden how to evade their clutches when the 29-year-old NSA contract employee blew the whistle himself.


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  • (Score: 0, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday May 23 2016, @04:08AM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday May 23 2016, @04:08AM (#349771) Journal

    Holy shit, Runaway, am I gonna have to report you to JMorris and KHallow for insufficient jingoism^W patriotism? You sound like a dirty stinkin' Muslim atheist gay Jew terr'ist illegal Ay-rab job-stealin' welfare-moochin' lazy immigrant refugee rapist Mexican 'Murrica-hater whut don't own a gun an' wants the New World Order t' force our women to deny Christ, practice witchcraft, and become lesbians!

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  • (Score: -1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 23 2016, @04:16AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) on Monday May 23 2016, @04:16AM (#349774) Homepage Journal

    Azuma - I begin to suspect that you live in a very circumscribed world. It is clear that you believe that I also live in such a small world. There are bigger issues than whether confused individuals should be permitted to pee in a potty reserved for girls. In fact, that isn't even an issue in the real world. Please, expand your horizons. Deviants and deviancy is only a small part of life.

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    • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday May 23 2016, @05:06AM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday May 23 2016, @05:06AM (#349783) Journal

      ...what the fuck? Are you referring to my attempts to reason with Kurenai or something?

      Seriously, what the hell was that little cranium-shart just now about? Sounds like some kind of overemotional deflecting tactic to me. Almost as if you don't like it when someone points out that you are, as a paleocon, neither flesh nor fowl in today's political world, yet STILL have some of the worst traits of the people you claim to be above...

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      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 23 2016, @05:40AM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) on Monday May 23 2016, @05:40AM (#349794) Homepage Journal

        One or both of us is entirely out of touch with reality. Scroll up and read your own post.

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        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by mhajicek on Monday May 23 2016, @05:53AM

          by mhajicek (51) on Monday May 23 2016, @05:53AM (#349797)

          Both. [duck]

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23 2016, @09:20AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23 2016, @09:20AM (#349835)

            hey fuck you i love ducks!

    • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by kurenai.tsubasa on Monday May 23 2016, @11:12AM

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Monday May 23 2016, @11:12AM (#349856) Journal

      Whole thread is derailed so why not. It would seem to me that the people who are truly confused are the ones who turn me away from the men's room.

      I would suggest before engaging in bathroom policing, that one should at least become educated on the effects of HRT on the body. Cisgendered women could get hurt! At the very least, I relish the idea of forcing 9,999 “real” women to present their birth certificate at the bathroom door for the chance of catching the 1/10,000 "confused" one. At least in the time between beginning the “real life test” and getting said birth certificate updated.

      Believe the feminist lies! Bathroom rapists around every corner! Gender is a social construct! Only you can rush in to the women's room to rough up the pervert you just saw going in! The matrix¹ has you….

      ¹ Possibly the moon matrix—never discount the possibility of lizard people!

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23 2016, @11:01AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23 2016, @11:01AM (#349855)

    I'm having an increasingly difficult time following the guidelines in the moderation FAQ,

    Concentrate more on promoting than on demoting

    , after observing your repeated Ad Hominem attacks against Runaway1956. Your attacks add nothing to the topic's discussion and are an annoying distraction at best.

    Please focus on attacking the flaws in the ideas presented rather than attacking the poster.

    If you instead continue in your lack of restraint, I'm also going to cease restraining myself from moderating as many of your offtopic and flamebait comments I regretfully encounter as such.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23 2016, @11:23AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23 2016, @11:23AM (#349860)

      "If you ever get the chance to travel with a Mexican rodeo... pass."

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday May 23 2016, @03:51PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday May 23 2016, @03:51PM (#349931) Journal

      So long as you do it with your actual name so I know who you are, rather than hiding behind anonymity.

      And let me clue you in on something, Mr. AC: the standard you walk past is the standard you accept. I'm not doing this to hurt Runaway; for that to work he would have to have a conscience and a shred of basic human decency. I am doing this so that everyone who comes across his unmitigated septic brain-spew doesn't think we all agree with him. All it takes for evil to win is for good (wo)men to do nothing.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23 2016, @07:02PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23 2016, @07:02PM (#349981)

        You stalk another user and make off-topic, flaimbait comments in order to protect us?

        I don't think we need your protection and derailing the comment section with your personal flamewar is not appreciated. Write journal entries, message each other, and use your foe list.

        I do welcome any meaningful contributions (that are on-topic) and feel free to use the disagree mod whenever you have points.

        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday May 23 2016, @07:25PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday May 23 2016, @07:25PM (#349988) Journal

          You're rather missing the point here: if someone walked into your biology classroom and started shouting about creationism at the top of his lungs, is it flamebait to point out how he's wrong, for the sake of the more or less captive audience exposed to it? The entire point of an open forum like this is to allow that kind of exchange.

          And it seems you don't understand the definition of stalker. I had a stalker once, an insane security guard from Kenosha who had an obsession with GitS's Laughing Man character. He was constantly sending me harassing messages with burner email addresses, portscanning my router (wt actual f...) and trying to break into my social media accounts. I don't go looking for Runaway's posts specifically, but if one pops up and it's full of shit, I point it out. If you've seen our history you'll notice I've actually upmodded several of his posts in the past.

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          • (Score: 2) by tibman on Monday May 23 2016, @07:53PM

            by tibman (134) on Monday May 23 2016, @07:53PM (#349998)

            is it flamebait to point out how he's wrong

            I don't think anyone would have an issue if that's what you did. But it was mostly just name calling. Other people looking in who have no context to your relationship with Runway will view you as a crazy person (and mod you as such). You lost the high-ground.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23 2016, @08:06PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 23 2016, @08:06PM (#350003)

            if someone walked into your biology classroom

            I'll try to use your classroom analogy:

            This comment section is a history classroom.
            You apparently have a biology class with Runaway1956 and he/she says all kinds of shit that pisses you off.

            Now, you walk into my history class and shout at one of my classmates after he/she made an on-topic comment:

            You sound like a dirty stinkin' Muslim atheist gay Jew terr'ist illegal Ay-rab job-stealin' welfare-moochin' lazy immigrant refugee rapist Mexican 'Murrica-hater

            You are interfering with my history class and tell me that it is for my own good. I say, "No, thanks. How about you just take things outside or wait until your biology class."

      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday May 23 2016, @08:27PM

        by takyon (881) <{takyon} {at} {soylentnews.org}> on Monday May 23 2016, @08:27PM (#350012) Journal

        That's bullshit. Maybe your reasoning would work on some thread where Runaway was actually espousing these ideas you oppose, but your first reply to Runaway's first comment was offtopic flamebait. It is plain to see when viewing the thread in Oldest First (Ignore Threads) mode [soylentnews.org]. Thanks for derailing my (hastily submitted) story.

        is it flamebait to point out how he's wrong, for the sake of the more or less captive audience exposed to it? [...] I don't go looking for Runaway's posts specifically, but if one pops up and it's full of shit, I point it out. If you've seen our history you'll notice I've actually upmodded several of his posts in the past.

        If you were really being selective about how you deal with Runaway's posts, including agreeing with some or modding some of them up, then why did you derail the thread? You could have waited all of 4 minutes and blasted his Chelsea Manning related post.

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        • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday May 23 2016, @08:35PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday May 23 2016, @08:35PM (#350016) Journal

          I didn't even see that one until having finished with the first one. His output is truly prolific, much like the result of overindulgence in "dried plums."

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