The spreading of systemd continues, now actively pushed by themselves unto other projects, like tmux:
"With systemd 230 we switched to a default in which user processes started as part of a login session are terminated when the session exists (KillUserProcesses=yes).
[...] Unfortunately this means starting tmux in the usual way is not effective, because it will be killed upon logout."
It seems methods already in use (daemon, nohup) are not good for them, so handling of processes after logout has to change at their request and as how they say. They don't even engange into a discussion about the general issue, but just pop up with the "solution". And what's the "reason" all this started rolling? dbus & GNOME coders can't do a clean logout so it must be handled for them.
Just a "concidence" systemd came to the rescue and every other project like screen or wget will require changes too, or new shims like a nohup will need to be coded just in case you want to use with a non changed program. Users can probably burn all the now obsolete UNIX books. The systemd configuration becomes more like a fake option, as if you don't use it you run into the poorly programmed apps for the time being, and if they ever get fixed, the new policy has been forced into more targets.
Seen at lobsters 1 & 2 where some BSD people look pissed at best. Red Hat, please, just fork and do you own thing, leaving the rest of us in peace. Debian et al, wake up before RH signed RPMs become a hard dependency.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Monday May 30 2016, @09:02AM
I suspect this is a troll, so I will mostly respond with a stock answer:
When Free Software Isn't (Practically) Superior [gnu.org]
That, and for mere peons, Microsoft is resorting to dirty tricks [soylentnews.org] in order to install Windows 10. Between that and telemetry, MIcrosoft is now openly hostile to their (non corporate) user-base. The average user is now replacing the QA department, which does not bode well for stability.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 30 2016, @06:11PM
Well if the Windows 7 marketshare _increases_ vs Windows 10, that might convince Microsoft they're heading in the wrong direction.
You may laugh, but they did backpedal a bit after the Metro UI thing, and they did respond to the Vista complaints.
Any signs of backpedalling for systemd?
It seems every time Microsoft screws up (Vista, Metro etc) the Desktop Linux people sabotage their own stuff to make it even less attractive (pulseaudio, Unity, systemd etc). If you don't think Desktop Linux stuff was getting bad during those times, then explain why there was so much significant forking? e.g Linux Mint/Cinnamon, MATE etc.