The spreading of systemd continues, now actively pushed by themselves unto other projects, like tmux:
"With systemd 230 we switched to a default in which user processes started as part of a login session are terminated when the session exists (KillUserProcesses=yes).
[...] Unfortunately this means starting tmux in the usual way is not effective, because it will be killed upon logout."
It seems methods already in use (daemon, nohup) are not good for them, so handling of processes after logout has to change at their request and as how they say. They don't even engange into a discussion about the general issue, but just pop up with the "solution". And what's the "reason" all this started rolling? dbus & GNOME coders can't do a clean logout so it must be handled for them.
Just a "concidence" systemd came to the rescue and every other project like screen or wget will require changes too, or new shims like a nohup will need to be coded just in case you want to use with a non changed program. Users can probably burn all the now obsolete UNIX books. The systemd configuration becomes more like a fake option, as if you don't use it you run into the poorly programmed apps for the time being, and if they ever get fixed, the new policy has been forced into more targets.
Seen at lobsters 1 & 2 where some BSD people look pissed at best. Red Hat, please, just fork and do you own thing, leaving the rest of us in peace. Debian et al, wake up before RH signed RPMs become a hard dependency.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 30 2016, @06:00PM
What is semi scary is systemd's/redhat way of doing things is making MS look nice.
MS windows actually has a fairly NICE system service startup system. I have used and coded it for years. This systemd junk on the other hand you break someone elses code and system and then expect them to fix it for you? That is not going to fly. Most people are going to look to off load the idiot who is changing things for the sake of change.
If there is a bug in dbus/gnome FIX THOSE dont pick dumb default startup items to fix a boundary condition.
Its pulseaudio all over again.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 30 2016, @06:44PM
So use devuan or one of the other forks, and quit whining. Problem solved