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posted by cmn32480 on Monday May 30 2016, @06:44AM   Printer-friendly
from the fed-up-with-the-UNIX-take-over dept.

The spreading of systemd continues, now actively pushed by themselves unto other projects, like tmux:

"With systemd 230 we switched to a default in which user processes started as part of a login session are terminated when the session exists (KillUserProcesses=yes).

[...] Unfortunately this means starting tmux in the usual way is not effective, because it will be killed upon logout."

It seems methods already in use (daemon, nohup) are not good for them, so handling of processes after logout has to change at their request and as how they say. They don't even engange into a discussion about the general issue, but just pop up with the "solution". And what's the "reason" all this started rolling? dbus & GNOME coders can't do a clean logout so it must be handled for them.

Just a "concidence" systemd came to the rescue and every other project like screen or wget will require changes too, or new shims like a nohup will need to be coded just in case you want to use with a non changed program. Users can probably burn all the now obsolete UNIX books. The systemd configuration becomes more like a fake option, as if you don't use it you run into the poorly programmed apps for the time being, and if they ever get fixed, the new policy has been forced into more targets.

Seen at lobsters 1 & 2 where some BSD people look pissed at best. Red Hat, please, just fork and do you own thing, leaving the rest of us in peace. Debian et al, wake up before RH signed RPMs become a hard dependency.


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  • (Score: 2) by Aiwendil on Tuesday May 31 2016, @11:06PM

    by Aiwendil (531) on Tuesday May 31 2016, @11:06PM (#353245) Journal

    I see more embedded systems than desktops a normal month and consider the desktops to be the oddball - but if you restrict it to the user-interactive things you still have the entertainment systems in cars, heartmonitors in medical, control interface of trainsystems, control interfaces of automated manufacturing plants, check-in systems in mass-transit.. or put anothrer way - it's normally one of QNX, WinCE or Windows Embedded* you are interacting with as soon as you are at a non-desktop[conventional], non-tablet in a non-consumer setting and have a graphical interface.

    * = Windows Embedded is hybrid kernel.

    The double periods are just a bad habit of mine, I use it in my drafts whenever I consider an argument to not be completed but completing it would require me to be overly verbosive. Mainly tend to forget to remove them while typing from the smartphone.

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