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posted by martyb on Wednesday June 01 2016, @02:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the unintended-consequences dept.

Devuan, the once devil-may-care total fork of Debian, once linked to virulent internet sexism and gamer-gate affiliated image forums by Debian Developer Russel Coker, has mulled the option of enacting a Code of Conduct when one of its female members was insulted:

> https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/2016-05-25/?page=2
>jaromil today i was scrolling through http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_...
>golinux Well, I tried but couldn't find anybody. Then nextime popped up
>jaromil jeez. we need to take precautions. and also I get the point from Sarah Mei we need a code of conduct on-line and later for on-site http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2015/02/01/the-fos...
> its never too early for that
>
>golinux One can only control one's own actions. ;)
>
>jaromil ah the wise one
...
>Wizzup he is doxed?
>jaromil that's him. we have a dossier yes

Devuan has been criticized for taking a "who gives a damn" and "real admins do it all by hand themselves every install" attitude towards security hardening scripts, and despise in particular any mention of the "bastille" linux hardening script (originally funded by Mandrake Linux).

Interestingly when Devuan was forming, the people behind Devuan cited the very person they are considering making the code of conduct against:

> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20141027
>VUA: It will be a governing body that puts the benefits of the users first, not the mystification of a "doacracy" delivering all the power to the package maintainers.
>Originally, Debian was created as a universal operating system for the users. The Free Software movement itself is there to defend users' rights. Sgryphon explains it well in this thread. ( http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=3031 )
>We will likely reproduce the governing body of Debian to follow its original mandate, with the advantage of starting small and more focused, hopefully with less pressure from the interest of commercial developers.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Bot on Wednesday June 01 2016, @03:48PM

    by Bot (3902) on Wednesday June 01 2016, @03:48PM (#353510) Journal

    Instead of a CoC, what about censoring every aspect which is not technical from the technical ML and keep one off topic board for whatever else?
    Trolls will soon tire of seeing their post edited/yanked and their persons freely ridiculed, because one Warning to those entering the ML should be like: "if you find a message offensive, talk to the writer and/or leave, we take no responsibility if it offends you".

    Because as I see it, the timeline is:
    - Install trolls into targeted forum (a good example is mikeeusa in devuan list, why should a pro troll bother with small lists?)
    - Troll starts trolling
    - CoC invoked
    - CoC enacted
    - CoC used by self appointed censors to either censor targets with accusations, and having the ML admins take on the role of judges of alleged facts happening on the other part of the globe, or to complain that CoC is not enforced and proceed throwing mud at the project leadership.
    - Atmosphere becomes toxic
    - Targeted people and 3rd parties leave
    - My work here is done

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  • (Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday June 01 2016, @03:49PM

    by Bot (3902) on Wednesday June 01 2016, @03:49PM (#353512) Journal

    Uh, and there is always bbqlinux, which incidentally tends to do without systemd.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 02 2016, @02:14AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 02 2016, @02:14AM (#353768)

    >Atmosphere becomes toxic
    That's because Jaromil smokes so much dope.

    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Saturday June 04 2016, @01:38AM

      by Bot (3902) on Saturday June 04 2016, @01:38AM (#354962) Journal

      I see the psychedelic coding more in the pulseaudio/dbus/systemd camp, but I am in no position to check.

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