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posted by martyb on Wednesday June 01 2016, @02:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the unintended-consequences dept.

Devuan, the once devil-may-care total fork of Debian, once linked to virulent internet sexism and gamer-gate affiliated image forums by Debian Developer Russel Coker, has mulled the option of enacting a Code of Conduct when one of its female members was insulted:

> https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/2016-05-25/?page=2
>jaromil today i was scrolling through http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_...
>golinux Well, I tried but couldn't find anybody. Then nextime popped up
>jaromil jeez. we need to take precautions. and also I get the point from Sarah Mei we need a code of conduct on-line and later for on-site http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2015/02/01/the-fos...
> its never too early for that
>
>golinux One can only control one's own actions. ;)
>
>jaromil ah the wise one
...
>Wizzup he is doxed?
>jaromil that's him. we have a dossier yes

Devuan has been criticized for taking a "who gives a damn" and "real admins do it all by hand themselves every install" attitude towards security hardening scripts, and despise in particular any mention of the "bastille" linux hardening script (originally funded by Mandrake Linux).

Interestingly when Devuan was forming, the people behind Devuan cited the very person they are considering making the code of conduct against:

> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20141027
>VUA: It will be a governing body that puts the benefits of the users first, not the mystification of a "doacracy" delivering all the power to the package maintainers.
>Originally, Debian was created as a universal operating system for the users. The Free Software movement itself is there to defend users' rights. Sgryphon explains it well in this thread. ( http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=3031 )
>We will likely reproduce the governing body of Debian to follow its original mandate, with the advantage of starting small and more focused, hopefully with less pressure from the interest of commercial developers.


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  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday June 01 2016, @06:34PM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday June 01 2016, @06:34PM (#353585) Journal

    Why do you keep using cunt and pussy as insults? It sounds like you don't particularly like them, to my admittedly untrained-in-the-fine-subtleties-of-masculine-thought ear :) Especially with how every other post is an opportunity to make a "suck it" joke.

    Just saying, you don't generally use something you like as an insult. It'd be like a fat kid calling someone "chocolate cake."

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    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 01 2016, @07:44PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 01 2016, @07:44PM (#353627)

    Young girls (female children) are nice.

    Busted cunt bitches aint.

    Why should men like women when there are girls?

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday June 01 2016, @07:54PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday June 01 2016, @07:54PM (#353632) Journal

      Hah, I knew you were still around here somewhere, Karavatskhelia :D You're as predictable as clockwork and not even half as useful.

      Real men (yes, I know the irony of a lesbian saying this...) are not afraid of women who are their equal. If anything I would expect a man with that high an opinion of himself to WANT an Amazon with a genius-level IQ, as she would be worthy of him.

      You, of course, are terrified, absolutely TERRIFIED, by the power of the poonani, so you can only function with a much smaller and weaker partner. Sad, really.

      --
      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 02 2016, @02:09AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 02 2016, @02:09AM (#353764)

        >with a much smaller and weaker partner.

        Sounds wonderful. A cute female child. And not a partner; a subordinate.
        As the God spoken of in the book of Deuteronomy intended.

        • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday June 03 2016, @01:52AM

          by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Friday June 03 2016, @01:52AM (#354312) Journal

          You couldn't handle an Amazon woman for precisely the reasons you put forward, you coward. Hide behind your sky wizard. Maybe you want a little girl because you are nothing but a little boy.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2016, @02:35AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 04 2016, @02:35AM (#354987)

            >You couldn't handle an Amazon woman for precisely the reasons you put forward, you coward.
            Yep, don't want to handle no heifers

            > Hide behind your sky wizard.
            Gladly

            >Maybe you want a little girl
            Many are so cute.

            >because you are nothing but a little boy.
            Doesn't bother me. Keep making money for your boss.

    • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Thursday June 02 2016, @01:34AM

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Thursday June 02 2016, @01:34AM (#353754) Journal

      Damn it, MikeeUSA! If Azuma and I agree on one thing, and I repeat myself here, go the fuck away, MikeeUSA!

      You know what? Have a -1, boot to the head!

      Seriously, if you aren't what I suspect you are, please get help. Consider cannabis flower.

      Until then: -1, boot to the head!

  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Jiro on Wednesday June 01 2016, @09:14PM

    by Jiro (3176) on Wednesday June 01 2016, @09:14PM (#353665)

    Why do you keep using cunt and pussy as insults? It sounds like you don't particularly like them, to my admittedly untrained-in-the-fine-subtleties-of-masculine-thought ear :) Especially with how every other post is an opportunity to make a "suck it" joke.

    Just saying, you don't generally use something you like as an insult. It'd be like a fat kid calling someone "chocolate cake."

    Don't be a prick.

    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday June 01 2016, @10:06PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday June 01 2016, @10:06PM (#353684) Journal

      See, THAT is proper usage of it :) I don't particularly care for pricks, so being compared to one actually makes sense as an insult.

      --
      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday June 01 2016, @11:05PM

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday June 01 2016, @11:05PM (#353710) Homepage Journal

    Because they are insults; effective ones. What, you want cunt to not be an insult while dick, prick, pecker-head, etc... remain derogatory? Fuck off.

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    My rights don't end where your fear begins.
    • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday June 02 2016, @04:38AM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday June 02 2016, @04:38AM (#353829) Journal

      Did I hit a nerve? A very small, insensitive, and in all likelihood rather under-used nerve?

      And actually I tend to avoid gendered insults at all, preferring to stick with "asshole." Everyone has them, they are vile, they don't make new lives, and sometimes they are full of shit. Can't really see why male genitalia are insults any more than female ones, but whatever...though I have to admit I do think the guys' equipment is goofy as all hell.

      --
      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday June 02 2016, @10:09AM

        Nope, not even close, but it's nice to see my biggest fan still trying.

        As for gendered insults, they aren't required to make literal sense as long as they're understood. Such is the nature of the language. It's quirky like that.

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        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
  • (Score: 2) by Thexalon on Thursday June 02 2016, @02:00PM

    by Thexalon (636) on Thursday June 02 2016, @02:00PM (#354050)

    In my experience, there's an inverse relationship among men between using terms for female genitalia as insults, and actually interacting with female genitalia as much as the men in question desire. As in, horny desperate boys use those terms all the time, happily married men rarely do.

    In short, if The Mighty Buzzard got laid more often, he might see those body parts as beautiful instead of dirty or insulting.

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    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
    • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday June 02 2016, @04:56PM

      by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday June 02 2016, @04:56PM (#354125) Journal

      Between that and his .sig I have to wonder if he bats for the other team...

      --
      I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...