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posted by martyb on Wednesday June 01 2016, @02:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the unintended-consequences dept.

Devuan, the once devil-may-care total fork of Debian, once linked to virulent internet sexism and gamer-gate affiliated image forums by Debian Developer Russel Coker, has mulled the option of enacting a Code of Conduct when one of its female members was insulted:

> https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/2016-05-25/?page=2
>jaromil today i was scrolling through http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_...
>golinux Well, I tried but couldn't find anybody. Then nextime popped up
>jaromil jeez. we need to take precautions. and also I get the point from Sarah Mei we need a code of conduct on-line and later for on-site http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2015/02/01/the-fos...
> its never too early for that
>
>golinux One can only control one's own actions. ;)
>
>jaromil ah the wise one
...
>Wizzup he is doxed?
>jaromil that's him. we have a dossier yes

Devuan has been criticized for taking a "who gives a damn" and "real admins do it all by hand themselves every install" attitude towards security hardening scripts, and despise in particular any mention of the "bastille" linux hardening script (originally funded by Mandrake Linux).

Interestingly when Devuan was forming, the people behind Devuan cited the very person they are considering making the code of conduct against:

> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20141027
>VUA: It will be a governing body that puts the benefits of the users first, not the mystification of a "doacracy" delivering all the power to the package maintainers.
>Originally, Debian was created as a universal operating system for the users. The Free Software movement itself is there to defend users' rights. Sgryphon explains it well in this thread. ( http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=3031 )
>We will likely reproduce the governing body of Debian to follow its original mandate, with the advantage of starting small and more focused, hopefully with less pressure from the interest of commercial developers.


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  • (Score: 2) by http on Wednesday June 01 2016, @07:38PM

    by http (1920) on Wednesday June 01 2016, @07:38PM (#353623)

    You haven't been paying attention - it's not an extraordinary claim. You're ignoring the evidence the people in the thick of it are providing. Oh, and saveservices is/was run by a mail-order bride company... not exactly credible. If you actually read the report, it doesn't claim what they say it claims - one in a hundred woman slapping a man in the face doesn't compare with three men in a hundred decking a woman with one, two, three haymakers and don't you dare get back up.

    So shut the fuck up, AC. Even if you're trying to claim that a scratch is the same as a hospital visit, and go read tables 4.1 and 4.2 which DOES make that simplification - page 38 of the report [cdc.gov], page 48 of the pdf. For women, lifetime physical violence 33%, 39 million; for men, 28%, 32 million.

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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by http on Wednesday June 01 2016, @07:41PM

    by http (1920) on Wednesday June 01 2016, @07:41PM (#353626)

    Oh, and if case you don't feel like doing the work yourself to educate your sorry self, the same report (I know, reading hard) lists stats of 30.3% of women experiencing severe physical violence versus 13.8% of men in their lifetime.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 01 2016, @08:47PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 01 2016, @08:47PM (#353652)

    Men and women are abusers and victims at about equal rates, and in equal intensity. Sorry.