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Devuan, the once devil-may-care total fork of Debian, once linked to virulent internet sexism and gamer-gate affiliated image forums by Debian Developer Russel Coker, has mulled the option of enacting a Code of Conduct when one of its female members was insulted:
> https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/2016-05-25/?page=2
>jaromil today i was scrolling through http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_...
>golinux Well, I tried but couldn't find anybody. Then nextime popped up
>jaromil jeez. we need to take precautions. and also I get the point from Sarah Mei we need a code of conduct on-line and later for on-site http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2015/02/01/the-fos...
> its never too early for that
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>golinux One can only control one's own actions. ;)
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>jaromil ah the wise one
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>Wizzup he is doxed?
>jaromil that's him. we have a dossier yes
Devuan has been criticized for taking a "who gives a damn" and "real admins do it all by hand themselves every install" attitude towards security hardening scripts, and despise in particular any mention of the "bastille" linux hardening script (originally funded by Mandrake Linux).
Interestingly when Devuan was forming, the people behind Devuan cited the very person they are considering making the code of conduct against:
> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20141027
>VUA: It will be a governing body that puts the benefits of the users first, not the mystification of a "doacracy" delivering all the power to the package maintainers.
>Originally, Debian was created as a universal operating system for the users. The Free Software movement itself is there to defend users' rights. Sgryphon explains it well in this thread. ( http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=3031 )
>We will likely reproduce the governing body of Debian to follow its original mandate, with the advantage of starting small and more focused, hopefully with less pressure from the interest of commercial developers.
(Score: 2) by Marand on Thursday June 02 2016, @03:00AM
Whether he's a dev or not is irrelevant to what I said, and you know it. You cherry-picked a small fragment rather than taking it in context:
Everyone has bad days, or says somethhing shitty without intending it, and that's fine. The problem people are the ones like Mikee that never do anything else.
That is clearly stating that the problem is when someone never seems to interact with a community in a positive, civil way. If it's a one-off thing, like if they get into a heated discussion and take it too far, you can usually tell someone to just knock it off, stop being a jackass, and that's enough. Sometimes it isn't and you have to add some force to it, like a temporary ban, or taking away voice in an IRC channel, and that will usually get the point across.
Then you have the repeat offenders that do this everywhere, and never stop, no matter how many warnings they get, no matter how many times they get kicked, de-voiced, banned, etc. They're just not going to get along with others, and at that point they either have to get told to STFU and just work quietly, or GTFO.
Mikee is very clearly in the latter camp; this shit has been going on for what, over a decade now? He's a a serial troll, with obvious mental issues and a complete inability to be involved in a community without eventually turning it into a new round of insane, agenda-pushing douchebaggery. Eventually you have to just give up on some people, they're never going to learn to be civil.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 02 2016, @04:36AM
>That is clearly stating that the problem is when someone never seems to interact with a community in a positive, civil way.
The "community" never interacts in a productive way: it just "discusses" and demands.
Why should devs be civil to that?
The old opensource way to handle the "community" was the correct one.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 02 2016, @05:01AM
>this shit has been going on for what, over a decade now?
15 years.