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posted by martyb on Wednesday June 01 2016, @02:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the unintended-consequences dept.

Devuan, the once devil-may-care total fork of Debian, once linked to virulent internet sexism and gamer-gate affiliated image forums by Debian Developer Russel Coker, has mulled the option of enacting a Code of Conduct when one of its female members was insulted:

> https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/2016-05-25/?page=2
>jaromil today i was scrolling through http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_...
>golinux Well, I tried but couldn't find anybody. Then nextime popped up
>jaromil jeez. we need to take precautions. and also I get the point from Sarah Mei we need a code of conduct on-line and later for on-site http://www.sarahmei.com/blog/2015/02/01/the-fos...
> its never too early for that
>
>golinux One can only control one's own actions. ;)
>
>jaromil ah the wise one
...
>Wizzup he is doxed?
>jaromil that's him. we have a dossier yes

Devuan has been criticized for taking a "who gives a damn" and "real admins do it all by hand themselves every install" attitude towards security hardening scripts, and despise in particular any mention of the "bastille" linux hardening script (originally funded by Mandrake Linux).

Interestingly when Devuan was forming, the people behind Devuan cited the very person they are considering making the code of conduct against:

> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20141027
>VUA: It will be a governing body that puts the benefits of the users first, not the mystification of a "doacracy" delivering all the power to the package maintainers.
>Originally, Debian was created as a universal operating system for the users. The Free Software movement itself is there to defend users' rights. Sgryphon explains it well in this thread. ( http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=3031 )
>We will likely reproduce the governing body of Debian to follow its original mandate, with the advantage of starting small and more focused, hopefully with less pressure from the interest of commercial developers.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by letssee on Thursday June 02 2016, @06:12AM

    by letssee (2537) on Thursday June 02 2016, @06:12AM (#353873)

    Of course your sig is a joke. But using this quote as a sig, and not another, means it resonates with you. So it does say something about you.

    There are studies which prove women don't get harassed as often as man? Hahaha! I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.

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  • (Score: 1) by letssee on Thursday June 02 2016, @06:28AM

    by letssee (2537) on Thursday June 02 2016, @06:28AM (#353878)

    Oops, screwed up a sentence there. I meant to say:

    "There are studies proving women don't get harassed more than men?"

  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday June 02 2016, @10:14AM

    If you're really interested in the backstory, watch Undergrads. It's pretty hilarious. Many a good, quotable moment like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-AvqBMjsUs [youtube.com]

    Yeah, it's nifty how people will believe what they want contrary to facts being presented to them.

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    My rights don't end where your fear begins.
    • (Score: 1) by letssee on Thursday June 02 2016, @11:27AM

      by letssee (2537) on Thursday June 02 2016, @11:27AM (#353989)

      It's funny how I was thinking the *exact* same thing about you :-)

      I blame google's search bubble.

      • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday June 02 2016, @12:50PM

        You've been given studies that debunk the utter hell out of the studies you're relying on for your opinion and you've submitted none that debunk those studies. Who's got the confirmation bias again?

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        My rights don't end where your fear begins.
        • (Score: 1) by letssee on Thursday June 02 2016, @02:59PM

          by letssee (2537) on Thursday June 02 2016, @02:59PM (#354082)

          I think the main reason that we can't agree is that you seem to be talking about 'online only'. Where there are indeed some studies to backup your viewpoint, though if I look through duckduckgo's results it's really all over the place, with some studies saying it's about equal and some studies saying women get a lot more.

          I'm talking (mainly) about real life events, where catcalling and buttpinching are apparently considered 'normal'.

          I blame the confusing summary, which smushed together a few unrelated links.

          btw, I don't get why you are so irate. I'm trying to have a civilized discussion here, no need to start swearing.

    • (Score: 2) by http on Wednesday June 08 2016, @05:46AM

      by http (1920) on Wednesday June 08 2016, @05:46AM (#356726)

      Undergrads, yeah, know the reference and wish I didn't. Sexual harrassment of women as a requirement for entry into a fraternity? Such hilarity.

      There's a reason people are frequently attacking what you write concerning women: you're saying indefensible shit. Please, do yourself and everyone else a favour and stick to coding the website only. You're good at that, and it lets the adults talk.

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      I browse at -1 when I have mod points. It's unsettling.