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posted by janrinok on Sunday April 20 2014, @06:53PM   Printer-friendly
from the love-it-or-hate-it dept.

The long expected, and often dreaded, Australis user interface for Firefox will have become fact a couple weeks from now. For those of us who don't immediately jump back to the last ESR build without it, rage quit web browsing entirely, start using lynx in protest, or just say fork it, Martin Brinkmann over at Ghacks has an interesting writeup on further UI changes being proposed. The only thing I found interesting are the changes proposed for the context menu but, as always, your mileage may vary.

 
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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by tathra on Sunday April 20 2014, @08:06PM

    by tathra (3367) on Sunday April 20 2014, @08:06PM (#33698)

    If I wanted to use Chrome then I'd fucking download that instead.

    what the hell is going on? first opera changes to chrome, and now firefox too? i've used opera for as long as i can remember, but havent updated past opera 12.16 for exactly that reason (i dont really like firefox either).

    isnt firefox supposed to be open source? if they're making a change that most of the userbase doesnt like or approve, then a fork should be a foregone conclusion.

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  • (Score: 2) by edIII on Sunday April 20 2014, @08:48PM

    by edIII (791) on Sunday April 20 2014, @08:48PM (#33712)

    I can't say that I really care.

    Apparently I am in the minority, but I really like the UI for Chrome. It's not the same thing as /.Beta either. I see it as being as close and dense as you can get without directly going to full screen mode.

    It's just a UI, and from the change log and attached screen shots, it doesn't seem to be terrible.

    What I am more concerned about right now is that I don't run FireFox because it fucking blows. It's the worst performing browser out there with no stability. Everytime I go back to it, it's just painfully slow. I don't have the greatest impression from the rendering engine either. It breaks a lot of places that I go to routinely that render just fine in other browsers.

    I would choose Internet Explorer over FireFox at this point, and if that isn't a sign of just how bad they are, I don't know what is.

    Stop working on the stupid UI and make FireFox actually worth a damn again under the hood. I would quit Chrome in two seconds if they did.

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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by captain normal on Sunday April 20 2014, @09:57PM

      by captain normal (2205) on Sunday April 20 2014, @09:57PM (#33738)

      Except that Google also keeps changing it's UI every few months. For some reason the chrome development team keeps trying to push something called "Unity" in a poorly thought scheme to make the browser the same on a PC or tablet as on a phone or watch.
      I think all browser dev teams have caught this disease. In the last couple of years I've fired FF, Opera and Pale Moon. I still have IE on my machine, but refuse to use it. Mostly I just use Chrome. But if something with a simple GI like Chrome had a year ago, I'd jump on it.

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      • (Score: 2) by edIII on Sunday April 20 2014, @10:52PM

        by edIII (791) on Sunday April 20 2014, @10:52PM (#33758)

        I just wish they would concentrate the majority of their efforts on function and not form.

        *That* disease (Marketers and Execs were the ground zero monkey) of spending all your efforts on form is far more widespread on the Internet. You think I'm happy using Chrome? Lord no. I'm not a fan of Google, I just need to get my work done every day.

        Chrome is not perfect either. Every other day all the tabs will crash until I kill a single process (have to find it) and then it kills every Chrome process. Starting it back up allows me to restore everything without major incident.

        It's a travesty that Mozilla can't make a decent engine in FireFox. A travesty.

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    • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Monday April 21 2014, @02:36PM

      by tangomargarine (667) on Monday April 21 2014, @02:36PM (#33984)

      It's not the same thing as /.Beta either.

      Being a different brand of rotten from one rotten thing is better how?

      I see it as being as close and dense as you can get without directly going to full screen mode.

      I don't understand why everybody has a hard-on for fullscreen either. For desktops/laptops, we've got plenty of screen space anyway. I've never really understood why games generally fullscreen themselves either...in shooters maybe, okay, but Civ 2 was the last windowed Civ I think.

      What I am more concerned about right now is that I don't run FireFox because it fucking blows. It's the worst performing browser out there with no stability.

      Yeah, you might have a point about stability.

      I thought you had questioned why anyone would bother using Firefox somewhere, but I guess I'm just imagining things. Anyway: Plugins. Plugins plugins plugins! From what I'm seen Chrome's widgets aren't allowed to interact with the browser enough to accomplish much of anything of consequence. Maybe that's changed in the last few years, though.

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      • (Score: 1) by urza9814 on Monday April 21 2014, @11:35PM

        by urza9814 (3954) on Monday April 21 2014, @11:35PM (#34207) Journal

        I don't understand why everybody has a hard-on for fullscreen either. For desktops/laptops, we've got plenty of screen space anyway.

        Not vertically we sure as hell don't! I was shopping for a new laptop just last month. Couldn't find a single one with even as much vertical resolution as a freakin' 12 year old dirt cheap Dell desktop.

        Personally, I've been using this since it was first announced in the nightly, and I love it. Condense the UI, spread it out horizontally a bit more, and let me use the full vertical real-estate for the website I'm actually using.

        • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday April 22 2014, @04:28PM

          by tangomargarine (667) on Tuesday April 22 2014, @04:28PM (#34437)

          I use a vertical tab bar more for the fact that you can fit in like twice the tabs (legibly!) that way and I'm a tabaholic. It's a bit weird though if I want two windows side-by-side, even at 1680x1050.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 20 2014, @10:09PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 20 2014, @10:09PM (#33743)

    first opera changes to chrome
    Opera abandoned their own Presto rendering engine and switched to WebKit.

    Fewer species makes for a less-healthy ecosystem; look at how many folks were using OpenSSL and all got caught with their butts in the breeze.
    Genetic diversity is a Good Thing(tm).

    A while back, Maxthon (originally MyIE2) switched from M$'s Trident engine to WebKit[1].
    It's a bit of a trend.

    and now firefox too?
    The feel has changed, but it's still Gecko underneath.
    Kunasou, down in the thread, pointed to a fix for the UI.

    a fork
    That was covered by Kunasou as well.
    My response to him has options for Linux users.

    [1] On the plus side, Maxthon is now cross-platform.

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