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The evening after the massacre at Orlando's Pulse nightclub, a California pastor took the opportunity to preach that "God said: When you find a sodomite, put them to death.'" A video of the sermon was uploaded by the church, then deleted "for violating YouTube's policy on hate speech." A copy of the video uploaded by someone else, describing the sermon as "despicable," was allowed to remain.
coverage:
- Sacramento Bee
- CBS (about sermon)
- New York Daily News
- Washington Post
further information:
Facebook page for Verity Baptist Church
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @08:07AM
OTOH his opinions are usually sensible and his knowledge quite extended
LOL. I'm sure his opinions sound sensible to you. After all, he was a populist, i.e. a "politician" whose primary audience are the parts of society who are too poorly educated or simply too dumb to grasp how the world works. Unfortunately, just because a large number of people believe the world should and could be simpler doesn't make it so, and the Reich had to go on an invasion spree to prevent economic collapse.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @08:42AM
He was a socialist, and many European countries actually implemented most parts of the NSDAP plan. Big whiner too.
So no surprise his speeches are still popular.
(Score: 3, Informative) by fritsd on Wednesday June 15 2016, @10:20AM
No.
In the words of my history teacher: "and if you mix up the SDAP [wikipedia.org] with the NSDAP [wikipedia.org], I will personally beat you up!" (this was an argumentum ad baculum [wikipedia.org] )
Many European countries actually implemented most parts of the NSDAP plan, because their pre-occupation government was replaced by Quislings [wikipedia.org].
(One of the posters on that page says: "Dutchmen! For your honour and conscience, come on! against Bolsjewism. The Waffen SS calls on you to join!")
Waffen SS != socialism. Duh.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by tangomargarine on Wednesday June 15 2016, @02:01PM
No, the "Socialist" part of their name was a blatant lie to get more votes.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 3, Insightful) by bart9h on Wednesday June 15 2016, @01:30PM
woooooooooosh
(Score: 1) by arcz on Wednesday June 15 2016, @03:02PM
Hitler was quite logical. The problem is relying too much on logic. At the end of the day logic does not provide morality. Some emotional component, this is wrong, this is right, is required for that. Pure logic results in moral reletivism. Justice requires logic, but there are fundamental, non-logical fundamental emotional values that have to be accepted for that to work, that we want fairness, the greater good of society, and to not act hastily for example. But Hitler wasn't focused on fairness, patience, prudence, good of society, and etc. because he focused on only acheiving his goals like revenge, desire for power, etc.. Hitler logically acted to obtain his goals, but his goals were reprehensible.
Understanding that logic and justice are distinct concepts, is important.
(Score: 1) by ewibble on Thursday June 16 2016, @09:12PM
Logic and justice are not distinct, most moral need logic, otherwise you get things like being gay is bad because I say so. It harms no one to any significant extent so it is not bad. You need to apply logic to what people say otherwise you can too easily be swayed by emotion.
Here is logic for some of the big ones, they go pretty much the same:
Don't kill, if people are aloud to kill then we will have to spend our lives watching out, and defending ourselves from other people killing us, this is a huge waste resources.
This goes for stealing, honesty crimes as well, imagine people in general could trust what other people say, everything that anybody says to you would have to be independently verified, that would be a massive undertaking.
Most of the same, morals in the bible are ones that society work.
Hitler was not logical, he was populist. How can killing Jews, homosexuals logically help starving people with no food (Ok you kill off the population you have more for the remaining, but he had a scorched earth policy too). It can't, what it can do is get you support, people like blaming others for problems rather than looking inwards. What would have Hitler done once all his scapegoats where dead? Hitlers logic is not logic but an appeal to the emotions of fear and hate.
Look at America, blame the Mexicans, Muslims, Chinese for there economic problems, not the fact that they have lived beyond there means for decades. Or that they bombing other countries, and then complain when they get some causalities, who could have predicted that would happen?