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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday June 15 2016, @06:15AM   Printer-friendly
from the abiding-by-the-CoC dept.

The evening after the massacre at Orlando's Pulse nightclub, a California pastor took the opportunity to preach that "God said: When you find a sodomite, put them to death.'" A video of the sermon was uploaded by the church, then deleted "for violating YouTube's policy on hate speech." A copy of the video uploaded by someone else, describing the sermon as "despicable," was allowed to remain.

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further information:
Facebook page for Verity Baptist Church
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  • (Score: 2, Disagree) by ticho on Wednesday June 15 2016, @08:56AM

    by ticho (89) on Wednesday June 15 2016, @08:56AM (#360442) Homepage Journal

    I see nothing wrong with it. Youtube is a privately-owned commercial site. If you don't want your videos to be censored, start your own youtube, with your own rules (and hookers, and blackjack).

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  • (Score: 2) by mtrycz on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:08AM

    by mtrycz (60) on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:08AM (#360444)

    Exactly. Youtube isn't to be held to be the guaranteer of free speech. There's also a revelant xkcd somewhere.

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    • (Score: 4, Informative) by q.kontinuum on Wednesday June 15 2016, @11:14AM

      by q.kontinuum (532) on Wednesday June 15 2016, @11:14AM (#360472) Journal

      relevant xkcd [xkcd.com]

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      • (Score: 2) by korger on Wednesday June 15 2016, @08:10PM

        by korger (4465) on Wednesday June 15 2016, @08:10PM (#360726)

        XKCD is technically right about free speech, but misses an important point: that by its own definition, namely that free speech means that the Government can't arrest you for what you say, free speech is really useless. For what good is Government not being able to arrest us, if zealots not associated to the Government can kill us or at least make us unemployable, if they don't like what we are saying? If the 1st Amendment does not protect us from the worst outcomes, then it's worthless. XKCD tries to spin it that the only thing that may happen is that others stop listening, but there's plenty of evidence that it's a lot worse than that.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:27AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:27AM (#360452)

    So, let the few corporations make their own laws... Oh! wait!

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Capt. Obvious on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:36AM

    by Capt. Obvious (6089) on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:36AM (#360453)

    It's not really private. It's a public website hosted by a company that claims to be content neutral to take advantage of Safe Harbor immunity while being built (esp. originally) on copyright infringement.

    • (Score: 2) by ticho on Wednesday June 15 2016, @12:29PM

      by ticho (89) on Wednesday June 15 2016, @12:29PM (#360484) Homepage Journal

      Private != privately owned. And they are far from content-neutral these days. See all the automated takedowns in past few years, and drama around it.

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @01:11PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @01:11PM (#360507)

      If they were anywhere near content-neutral, they would have around 70% porn.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by jdavidb on Wednesday June 15 2016, @02:54PM

      by jdavidb (5690) on Wednesday June 15 2016, @02:54PM (#360566) Homepage Journal
      Yes, but YouTube still shouldn't have to give up their freedoms. The sermonizer's freedoms shouldn't come at the expense of the freedoms of other people.
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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday June 15 2016, @05:52PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday June 15 2016, @05:52PM (#360658) Journal
      a company that claims to be content neutral

      Where do they claim that?

      The only claim I see is what's in black and white on their website:

      We encourage free speech and try to defend your right to express unpopular points of view, but we don't permit hate speech. Hate speech refers to content that promotes violence or hatred against individuals or groups based on certain attributes, such as: race or ethnic origin religion disability gender age veteran status sexual orientation/gender identity

      Some actual claims. [google.com]
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @01:23PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @01:23PM (#360515)

    When a business becomes systemically important, then the government of the nation where such organization operates has to take action to ensure the well-being of the nation and other friendly nations, while ensuring that the truth is not suppressed.

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by VLM on Wednesday June 15 2016, @02:26PM

    by VLM (445) on Wednesday June 15 2016, @02:26PM (#360547)

    Monopoly public utilities should be regulated or nationalized.

    Businesses that don't want to be regulated or nationalized merely have to avoid becoming monopoly public utilities, its not that hard.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by mcgrew on Wednesday June 15 2016, @04:55PM

      by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Wednesday June 15 2016, @04:55PM (#360635) Homepage Journal

      Only natural monopolies like water, gas, sewer, electricity, internet access. If your "monopoly" is simply because you do a better job than everyone else, the government should stay out of the way.

      That said, if your monopoly comes from buying all your competetitors, government should step in and prevent it from happening.

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