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The evening after the massacre at Orlando's Pulse nightclub, a California pastor took the opportunity to preach that "God said: When you find a sodomite, put them to death.'" A video of the sermon was uploaded by the church, then deleted "for violating YouTube's policy on hate speech." A copy of the video uploaded by someone else, describing the sermon as "despicable," was allowed to remain.
coverage:
- Sacramento Bee
- CBS (about sermon)
- New York Daily News
- Washington Post
further information:
Facebook page for Verity Baptist Church
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(Score: 2) by SomeGuy on Wednesday June 15 2016, @01:10PM
No, not as much power as some. You are thinking too direct. He doesn't have to "order" anyone to do anything. Perhaps there are some police officers in the group of people that he preaches this stuff to. Or friends/family of police officers. Some of them hear and believe what he said. These people then slowly spread this belief indirectly through their actions.
And then years down the road, some cop may pull his trigger way too soon because someone threating him also happened to be gay.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday June 15 2016, @02:17PM
Yeah, but how is that different from you or me? I say something strongly felt, clearly worded in my graduate seminar and sometime later that triggers somebody who was in the room to do something awful?
If speech is a crime, if thought is a crime, then let's cut our tongues out, suture our lips shut, chop off our hands, and lobotomize ourselves so can never again have such power to influence others.
I abhor racism. I despise hate speech. The mindset that begets them is timid, curdled in sloth, and a pure projection of total self-hatred. But it is far more dangerous and damaging to censor it outright. The proper response, the only response, is to answer with vigor and the bright heat of reasoned scorn.
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(Score: 2) by jdavidb on Thursday June 16 2016, @02:45AM
I abhor racism. I despise hate speech. The mindset that begets them is timid, curdled in sloth, and a pure projection of total self-hatred. But it is far more dangerous and damaging to censor it outright. The proper response, the only response, is to answer with vigor and the bright heat of reasoned scorn.
But if they want to engage in the hate speech in my living room one proper response is for me to deny them access. And if they want to engage in the hate speech in a seminar I'm putting on one proper response is for me to not sign them up with the other speakers I am engaging. I have that right because they don't have the right to engage in their speech at my expense. Freedom of speech is grounded in freedom of the press. Today a "press" is very very affordable indeed and any bigot who wants to can obtain a cheap "press" and engage in whatever speech they desire. Certainly some people want to have a free for all uncensored discussion, but other people want to be left alone according to whatever standards they choose even if others don't feel those standards are consistent or advisable.
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