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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday June 15 2016, @06:15AM   Printer-friendly
from the abiding-by-the-CoC dept.

The evening after the massacre at Orlando's Pulse nightclub, a California pastor took the opportunity to preach that "God said: When you find a sodomite, put them to death.'" A video of the sermon was uploaded by the church, then deleted "for violating YouTube's policy on hate speech." A copy of the video uploaded by someone else, describing the sermon as "despicable," was allowed to remain.

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further information:
Facebook page for Verity Baptist Church
(archived copy)


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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by LoRdTAW on Wednesday June 15 2016, @01:38PM

    by LoRdTAW (3755) on Wednesday June 15 2016, @01:38PM (#360521) Journal

    Hear, hear.
    I have always thought the cartoonish characterization made of Hitler and the Nazis have made them look more like comic book villains than an actual political movement. I get that people want to make fun of Hitler and the Nazis as some sort of coping mechanism to deal with the atrocities they committed. But that detracts from the events that lead up to the Germans accepting such a political ideal. I'm sure Hitler was the 1920's/30' alt-right and like other anti-establishment rabble rousers, got the people's attention. Lather, rinse, repeat.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Wednesday June 15 2016, @02:33PM

    by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Wednesday June 15 2016, @02:33PM (#360551) Journal

    It's just what people do. I mean seriously, how often do you hear suicide bombers described in absolute terms of evil or stupidity rather than as human beings who started off with the same promise and potential as everyone else, but somehow were guided down a path of destruction? How often are pedophiles described as absolute evil, rather than troubled people with unhealthy urges that they can't control?

    There is no "pure evil" outside of popular entertainment or religious texts. People who do terrible things always do them for a reason- sometimes they think in their own heads they are doing good, sometimes they are driven by desperation or by personal demons or circumstances that are beyond their powers to contain. However it's more comfortable to simply distance ourselves from such people, to declare ourselves different rather than trying to understand them, trying to see what they have in common with everyone else. It's quicker and easier to simply label people as evil and then rejoice in their misery or destruction rather than examine their motives and try to use that information to prevent future tragedies.

    This is one of the reasons humanity is doomed to repeat the mistakes of history over and over again - people are too ready to delude themselves that "it will be different this time" because they see history in a different light to the present.

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @02:53PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 15 2016, @02:53PM (#360564)

      The absolute evil they say of Nazis is for a reason.

      Because Nazis were great people who never committed any crime of any kind whatsoever.

      So its safe for the Jews and their minions to call "absolute evil" because the Jews themselves are the evil.

      Calling someone absolute evil can be dangerous in case the person is really evil. But calling National Socialists evil defies logic, the laws of physics, the laws of mathematics, and is a crime against reason.

    • (Score: 2) by jdavidb on Thursday June 16 2016, @02:36AM

      by jdavidb (5690) on Thursday June 16 2016, @02:36AM (#360838) Homepage Journal

      how often do you hear suicide bombers described in absolute terms of evil or stupidity rather than as human beings who started off with the same promise and potential as everyone else

      Usually I hear suicide bombers described by people from the countries that are bombing that of the suiciders, yet the describers throw up their hands and say we just don't know why these people hate us. They sometimes go on to say something about Coca-Cola or Wal-Mart or scantily clad women or freedom, but they only definitive thing is "we just don't know." It apparently has nothing to do with the bombings, wars, and drone strikes Western governments are carrying on in the middle east. The suicidal Japanese fighters were the same way - noone could explain it, it was probably just that they aren't like us.

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    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 16 2016, @07:07AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 16 2016, @07:07AM (#360902)

      The banality of evil [wikipedia.org]

      • (Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Thursday June 16 2016, @09:08AM

        by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Thursday June 16 2016, @09:08AM (#360932) Journal

        That's a good link, thanks.

        I've come across that phrase before, and it struck me that it occurs to George W Bush. He kind of faded away from public view after leaving the Whitehouse, so I googled him up a while back to see what he was up to. bear in mind that when he was in power he started illegal wars, and was culpable for torture and kidnapping and thousands upon thousands of pointless deaths. He funnelled vast amounts of taxpayer money into the back pockets of crooks, villains and mercenaries. He must have had some awesome masterplan that he was working towards. Maybe he needed all that money to build a secret hideout in an extinct volcano, or maybe he has an exorbitant hookers+blow lifestyle to fund, or perhaps he believes spilling the blood of innocents will grant him eternal life via elaborate satanic rituals...

        No.

        You want to know how this dickhead is spending his retirement? He plays bridge and paints pictures of his dogs.

        For fuck's sake, if that's your ultimate ambition, you don't need to murder a hundred thousand Iraqis to realise it. You can spend 40 years as a shoe salesman and then retire comfortably with cards and oil paints. What was all that death and destruction ultimately for, if that's all you're going to do with the fruits of your wickedness? What a prick.