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The evening after the massacre at Orlando's Pulse nightclub, a California pastor took the opportunity to preach that "God said: When you find a sodomite, put them to death.'" A video of the sermon was uploaded by the church, then deleted "for violating YouTube's policy on hate speech." A copy of the video uploaded by someone else, describing the sermon as "despicable," was allowed to remain.
coverage:
- Sacramento Bee
- CBS (about sermon)
- New York Daily News
- Washington Post
further information:
Facebook page for Verity Baptist Church
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(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday June 15 2016, @07:12PM
Soooooo, if I understand this right: your God sacrificed his son, who is also himself, TO himself, to STOP himself from throwing his own creations, whom he knew would sin and how before he created them, into the Hell he also freely chose to create but didn't have to (and never told the Jews about; no, he left that to the pagan Persians and Greeks...).
And because he is omnipotent, transcendent, immutable, and absolutely-sovereign, no being can possibly harm him in any way shape or form, which means he is deliberately choosing to take offense at the things he knew his creations would do before he created them.
...yeah, makes perfect sense. Sounds like an abusive husband: "Why do you MAKE ME send you to Hell^W^W^W^W hit you?!"
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:12PM
Christians will tell you "nooo, you send yourself to hell!"
Oh, do I? Ok, then I choose not to go to hell no matter what my life choices are. "nooo you will go to hell for that!"
The religious fundamentalists are beyond reason.
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:38PM
Yup, and they're completely missing the point too: regardless of who does the sending, if it weren't there in the first fucking place, this would be a non-issue. You're unfortunately correct: fundamentalists are completely beyond reason, mostly because they've been hijacked by some sort of unchecked stolen concept fallacy with regards to their epistemology.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 3, Insightful) by mcgrew on Thursday June 16 2016, @03:09PM
The trouble with fundamentalists is that they don't seem to grasp the fundamentals.
Carbon, The only element in the known universe to ever gain sentience
(Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Sunday June 19 2016, @12:03AM
Fundamentalists are, however, quite mental.
"Don't you ever miss the days when you used to be nostalgic?" -Loiosh
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Thursday June 16 2016, @03:07PM
He's the programmer of the simulation you think the universe is, and you're just a subroutine. Also, don't forget that Abraham was to sacrifice HIS own son and God stopped him. You should never ask someone to undergo pain you're not willing to undergo.
Carbon, The only element in the known universe to ever gain sentience
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday June 16 2016, @05:11PM
I have news for you, Mr. McGrew; Jesus' death was not a "sacrifice." It was a shitty weekend, after which he (re)gained Godhood. I would let someone crucify me in exchange for that.
Congratulations on completely missing the fucking point, as your kind always do.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...