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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday June 15 2016, @06:15AM   Printer-friendly
from the abiding-by-the-CoC dept.

The evening after the massacre at Orlando's Pulse nightclub, a California pastor took the opportunity to preach that "God said: When you find a sodomite, put them to death.'" A video of the sermon was uploaded by the church, then deleted "for violating YouTube's policy on hate speech." A copy of the video uploaded by someone else, describing the sermon as "despicable," was allowed to remain.

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further information:
Facebook page for Verity Baptist Church
(archived copy)


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  • (Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:03PM

    by q.kontinuum (532) on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:03PM (#360743) Journal

    Atheism is not a belief; it's a lack of one.

    Wouldn't that be agnostic? An atheist claims there is no god. This statement cannot be proven, for the simple fact that "god" is not well defined. As soon as you prove something doesn't exist, believers can amend their definition of "god" in order to keep it possible.
    Since the statement can't be proven, atheists *believe* that there is no god, while agnostics would not claim any knowledge on that topic and therefore do not believe in any god.

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  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:30PM

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday June 15 2016, @09:30PM (#360759) Journal

    Sooooort of. I usually express this as a dual-axis statement: atheism/theism on the X axis as a belief claim, and gnosticism/agnosticism on the Y axis as a knowledge claim. So that gives us gnostic and agnostic theists, and gnostic and agnostic atheists. Most atheists are agnostic atheists; I suspect there are very few who are epistemilogically arrogant enough to claim perfect knowledge that there is nothing, anywhere, in any way shape or form that matches any definition of God, though it is perfectly reasonable to express gnostic atheism about *specific* God-concepts.

    I would technically be an agnostic theist, though this is only because deism, pantheism, panpsychism, etc. all get lumped into the "theist" half of the coordinate plane here.

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