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The U.S. Senate has passed a provision that would require women to register for the draft, but don't expect any changes soon:
On Tuesday, the Senate passed a defense authorization bill that would require young women to register for the draft — the latest development in a long-running debate over whether women should sign up for the Selective Service. The provision would apply to women turning 18 in 2018 or later and would impose the same requirements and rules that currently apply to men.
The policy is still far from being law. The House, after considering a similar provision earlier this spring, ultimately passed an authorization bill that omitted it; the two branches of Congress now must resolve the differences between their bills. And the bill faces a veto threat from President Obama over other elements of the legislation, such as the prohibition on closing down the Guantanamo Bay military prison. But the bill's passage brings women a step closer to Selective Service registration — a historic change that has bipartisan support in Congress but is firmly opposed by some conservative lawmakers.
For decades, the U.S. policy of having a draft for men, and not women, was approved as constitutional by the Supreme Court. But as NPR's David Welna reported last year, the court's reasoning relied on the fact that women were barred from combat roles. Now that women are eligible for combat duty, "Congress seems to have lost its court-endorsed rationale for limiting Selective Service registration to males only," David wrote.
Previously: Women Warriors Coming Soon to US Forces
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Thursday June 16 2016, @01:26PM
It's a good move toward gender equality in America. From a male perspective there are a couple other areas where things could use equalization. One is standing in child custody battles. Women win that fight most of the time in the courts because of outdated notions of parenting and gender roles. Another is sexual harassment--I've been sexually harassed a couple times in my career and the companies and lawyers couldn't give a crap; had I been a woman, they'd have taken immediate measures and thrown handfuls of cash at me.
Feminist issues get plenty of coverage, legislation, and action. Consideration of male issues (in the sphere of gender issues) gets short shrift in every quadrant.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 16 2016, @03:08PM
And domestic violence (as if the Violence Against Women Act wasn't a clue) and sexual assault (can't even use the word rape given how some statues are written).
Of course that is going to tear down about the last 50 years of feminist advocacy, which understandably some feminist are not to happy about.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday June 16 2016, @03:35PM
Thank you, good addenda. I ran into my graduate advisor on the subway in New York who as being physically abused by his wife. He was incredibly depressed because nobody in government took his complaints seriously. And this was a guy who had the equivalent of a black belt in capoeira. She put him in the hospital twice without consequences, because legally he could not strike back.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 16 2016, @03:57PM
Anecdotes are seductive.
Statistical analysis isn't so fun.
Women 3x more likely to be arrested in domestic assault incidents than men. [theguardian.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 16 2016, @04:29PM
Neither is misrepresentation.
"Men and women are equally likely to be arrested as long as both committed equally serious crimes."
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/222679.pdf [ncjrs.gov]
Also:
While the vast majority of perpetrators of domestic violence are men,
Oh really?
http://www.saveservices.org/2012/02/cdc-study-more-men-than-women-victims-of-partner-abuse/ [saveservices.org]
In fact, it was the lies promulgated by feminist concerning domestic abuse that turned me from ever identifying with them again.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 16 2016, @06:10PM
> In fact, it was the lies promulgated by feminist concerning domestic abuse that turned me from ever identifying with them again.
It's revealing that you have to cite spin from a group that puts victim-blaming front and center.
Female initiation of partner violence is the leading reason for the woman becoming a victim of subsequent violence. [saveservices.org]
"Shes started it" is not an excuse for escalation and it is definitely not an excuse to come back and start beating on someone the next day.
> "Men and women are equally likely to be arrested as long as both committed equally serious crimes."
That report says that fleeing the scene means the abuser is 4x less likely to be arrested.
What that report does not indicate is how often men flee versus women.
Since women are more likely to feel like they can not leave their children behind, they are less likely to flee.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 16 2016, @06:27PM
It's equally revealing you critique the messenger and not the message, which incidentally was a study conducted by the CDC.
That report says that fleeing the scene means the abuser is 4x less likely to be arrested.
What that report does not indicate is how often men flee versus women.
What the report also doesn't state is the percentage of arrests that plays a role, and anything beyond is pure speculation on your part. I note you lack the same degree of scrutiny for the other report, which even at 4x reduction is at extreme odds against criminal justice reporting.
I didn't even touch upon the Duluth Model, which given it is the most common intervention in domestic abuse cases, puts further doubt on the rates of domestic abuse if arrests are equivalent.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 16 2016, @06:38PM
> It's equally revealing you critique the messenger and not the message, which incidentally was a study conducted by the CDC.
Of course I critiqued the messenger, he put a massive spin on the study. He even admits in his own words that the study doesn't say what he said. What you linked to is basically him complaining that the study does not agree with his beliefs.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 16 2016, @07:10PM
nobody in government took his complaints seriously.
"Men and women are equally likely to be arrested as long as both committed equally serious crimes."
Sounds like you disagree with phoenix too.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 17 2016, @12:14AM
Arrest and prosecution are two different things, not to mention rates of arrest doesn't have any bearing on incidences of domestic violence.
Further a study that uses
96 examples from 692 "perpetrator profiles" tracked from 2001 to 2007
compared to standard criminal justice statistics is extremely suspect. And of course the standard "men abuse more than women" which has been proven time and time again to be false.
http://web.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm [csulb.edu]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 16 2016, @07:43PM
Great. Even if that's true, how does that help the men who are being abused? The laws are fucked up and need to be changed. The end.
(Score: 3, Funny) by mojo chan on Friday June 17 2016, @07:45AM
Um, you realize that feminists such as myself advocate and fight for the equality you want, no? For example, feminism is quite active in tackling domestic violence against men and the reasons why it often goes unreported, and the higher suicide rate among males etc. Feminism has developed a large body of study and theory looking at these issues, and created language to describe the problems (e.g. "toxic masculinity"*, "patriarchy").
* Before someone says it, this does not mean that masculinity is toxic. It's like "toxic chemicals", it doesn't imply that dihydrogen monoxide is bad.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 17 2016, @09:16AM
True.
Here is a feminist support group for suicide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0 [youtube.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 16 2016, @03:42PM
I'm curious. When you say "harassed", do you mean "unwanted attention", someone following you around, unwanted physical contact...?
It's hard for me to imagine situations when men feel threatened by women, and in my head harassment is associated to a pysical threat of some sort.
By the way, my assumption is that the scenario of a woman (boss) just wanting to have sex with someone in a lower hierarchical position and threatening workplace repercussions is not something that can happen in real life.
So far, I have only heard of one instance of a man being (quite literally) followed around by a woman who kept trying to end up alone with him. I *think* there was no contact outside of the work environment though (the guy's solution was to leave campus as early as possible and choose random paths).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 16 2016, @05:53PM
By the way, my assumption is that the scenario of a woman (boss) just wanting to have sex with someone in a lower hierarchical position and threatening workplace repercussions is not something that can happen in real life.
Good for you, Sparky. Which universe do you live in and can I immigrate? It sounds significantly rosier than mine.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 16 2016, @08:53PM
Consideration of male issues (in the sphere of gender issues) gets short shrift in every quadrant.
Must be sad to be such a sad puppy. I would feel sorry for you, but I am female, so all I can do is laugh! Ha ha!