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Even as a European*, I find this of interest, because of the level of corruption it shows.
Headline: "Clinton Was 'Extremely Careless' With Email But Should Not Be Charged".
In his statement, Comey said that the FBI's investigation had found 110 emails on Clinton's servers that had contained classified information when they were sent or received, of which eight contained material at the highest classification level of "top secret." Noting that this information was being stored on "unclassified personal servers" less secure even than commercial services like Gmail and that Clinton's use of the private account was widely known, Comey said it was "possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton's personal email account." Said Comey: "Any reasonable person should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that kind of information."
So: The FBI knows that she mishandled classified information. When you receive your security clearance, you are informed of the rules and the penalties for breaking them. Storing Secret, much less Top Secret information on a civilian server outside the control of the government violates those rules.
Yet, she will not be prosecuted. She was just "careless", no big deal. Laws are for the little people.
*Full disclosure: I used to be American, but turned in my passport some years ago. Various reasons, not least of which are the US tax policies. But the politics (The Shrub, Obama, and now...possibly Hillary!) - it's like a banana republic, only with nukes.
(Score: 3, Flamebait) by TheGratefulNet on Tuesday July 05 2016, @09:20PM
laws have ALWAYS been for little people.
but its obvious that this witch hunt is 100% partisan, as the summary kind of implies. the repubs have nothing 'good' on her so they use this.
bush: he created wars and tortured people. he got off 100% scot free. he was a monster but everyone gave him a pass and nothing happened to him, after doing so many monstorous things.
if all you have is 'info sec' on hillary, that's damned weaksauce, guys. everyone who is not wearing red can see that.
give it up and find something real to hunt someone over. the more you attack someone for petty bullshit, the less we want to support you (I'm talking to you, red-shirts).
most of us just can't get worked up about email security, especially when there are so many OTHER MEANINGFUL things to go after someone for.
the pettiness of the R's is pathetic. but keep fucking that chicken. you won't increase your numbers with these petty attacks.
"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2016, @09:38PM
While I agree with the general concept of Bush getting prison time, just like Clinton and hundreds of others, don't even pretend he started any of those things. He was just a figurehead for real powers influencing public opinion, performing psyops, and manipulating businesses and the military to their own eventual gains (whether financial or political or something else is an exercise for the reader.)
The real charges they should all be up on is treason, failure to uphold their sworn oath to the constitution and country, insider trading, corruption, corporate graft, leaking intelligence secrets (because lets be honest, they all have done it, directly or indirectly.) There might be others but those are enough to get them hanged or put in prison for the rest of their lives. But since both law enforcement and the judicial branch are in collusion, and both can be influenced by the legislative bodies, nothing will happen unless the people do something to remind them who they answer to, and what the consequences are of not fairly enforcing the laws against all. If the people are unwilling to do that, then it is their own fault when the people in charge consider themselves special, because the people are in that case tacitly implying they are through their inability to exert pressure upon their elected officials and legal enforcement bodies.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2016, @09:43PM
You yourself are obviously 100% partisan.
What character flaw in Hillary would convince you to vote for Trump? Would having a witness killed do the job? How about drone strikes?
I'm thinking there is nothing she could do that would make you vote for Trump. It doesn't matter if she eats raw brains right out of screaming little kids. You'd still fail to vote for Trump.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 05 2016, @09:54PM
So the only non-Hillary option in your eyes is to vote for Trump?
You might want to remove your partisan glasses when you visit this site. Either that or don't set-up a false dichotomy.
(Score: 1) by boxfetish on Wednesday July 06 2016, @12:58AM
You forget that this is nothing more than a spectator sport to most, so all that matters is cheering on and eventually backing the winning team.
(Score: 4, Informative) by jmorris on Tuesday July 05 2016, @11:33PM
You mean like this? U.N. Official 'Accidentally' Crushes Own Throat Right Before Testifying Against Hillary Clinton [zerohedge.com] Not to mention the long string of corpses under mysterious conditions from the first Clinton administration.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday July 06 2016, @01:54AM
Yeah, but, doesn't that happen all the time? I'm sure I've read of lots of people who crush their own throats. /sarcasm
We're gonna be able to vacation in Gaza, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran and maybe Minnesota soon. Incredible times.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Newander on Wednesday July 06 2016, @02:58PM
Except that's not true. [snopes.com] The Republicans have been trying to smear the Clintons since '92 and the only thing that has stuck is that he had an affair.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 06 2016, @09:45PM
And lied about it. It must be contagious, or business as usual being a politician.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by jdavidb on Tuesday July 05 2016, @09:44PM
ⓋⒶ☮✝🕊 Secession is the right of all sentient beings
(Score: 5, Insightful) by mth on Tuesday July 05 2016, @11:55PM
but its obvious that this witch hunt is 100% partisan, as the summary kind of implies. the repubs have nothing 'good' on her so they use this.
FYI, I am not an American and I have no particular fondness for either major US party.
bush: he created wars and tortured people. he got off 100% scot free. he was a monster but everyone gave him a pass and nothing happened to him, after doing so many monstorous things.
True, but how is that relevant? Two wrongs don't make a right.
if all you have is 'info sec' on hillary, that's damned weaksauce, guys. everyone who is not wearing red can see that.
She shouldn't have used her own server for government e-mail even if it were the most secure server in the world. She either knew that or should have known that but did it anyway. The fact that the server was poorly secured only makes a bad situation worse.
Maybe what she did is not enough to send her to jail, but any party with integrity wouldn't pick someone like that as their candidate.
(Score: 2) by TheGratefulNet on Wednesday July 06 2016, @05:53AM
but any party with integrity wouldn't pick someone like that as their candidate.
I'll pay you one bitcoin if you find me ONE poltician who is spotless and clean, to your 'integrity' standards.
I feel quite safe that my bitcoin is not going to land in your pocket.
save the 'integrity' bullshit, I'm not a spring chicken, I've lived more than 5 decades and I know how life works.
we elect politicans TO LIE AND DO BAD THINGS, hoping that it will land on our side on not the opposition. sorry if that ruins your disney tv storybook view of the world, but at the levels these people are at 100.0% of them are crooks. no one else could GET the job, much less keep it very long.
grow up, guys. we live in a highly corrupt world and the lone ranger ain't gonna come ridin' up to save the say. we have shit and we'll get shit. sometimes its red shit and sometimes its blue shit.
but if they are a politician with any amount of power, just one guess how they GOT that power. go ahead, look it up. its spelled with a C and ends with orruption. every single one of our 'elected leaders' is a sociopath. and we badly need a reboot since small tweaks are not going to get us to where we want.
when you have rich and powerful playing that ballgame, you seriously expect them to follow RULES?
again, when you were born? yesterday?
"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 06 2016, @06:35AM
There are spots and there is Black Square.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday July 06 2016, @06:28AM
... but 3 lefts do.
https://www.youtube.com/@ProfSteveKeen https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by mechanicjay on Wednesday July 06 2016, @05:32PM
... but 3 lefts do.
Ironically, only if those three lefts are equivalent to 3 right angles.
My VMS box beat up your Windows box.
(Score: 5, Funny) by linkdude64 on Wednesday July 06 2016, @12:47AM
Have you read any of those emails? They have recommendations from Hillary stating that the overthrow of Libyan and Syrian governments is in the best interests of Israel.
As our chief diplomat, Hillary used all of her power to:
1) Fund the little-known rebels who are now called ISIS
2) Destroy the stability of that region MUCH worse than Bush ever did...
3) ...So much so, in fact, that it caused a global refugee crisis potentially leading to the destruction of the European Union.
Every woman raped in Cologne, and every women raped and molested by Bill who was silenced can give Hillary Clinton a big fat thank you.
"Just infosec bro. She had no criminal intent bro."
Try reading those emails sometime.
(Score: 2) by TheGratefulNet on Wednesday July 06 2016, @05:57AM
I'll read the emails the minute the lincoln private communicatons are release, jefferson, washington, etc.
then go more modern and look at the last 20 or 30 years of politicians.
it sure would be interesting to read what THEIR private thoughts are!
you got one glimpse of the real world and now you're on a tirade. look around a bit more before you assume its just one person or party.
we have fundamental problems with authority and power figures in this country. and it happens to BOTH PARTIES.
that said, I still can't get worked up on emails that we see, since we don't have equiv 'private' emails from the other sons of bitches that we 'elected' (or who stole office).
show me a spotless record for bush and cheney and bush1. until you can show your guys are spotless, I could care less about your little 'we lost, waaaaah!' whining.
politicians lie and break rules and mostly get away with it. to think otherwise is to be a denialist (or troll).
"It is now safe to switch off your computer."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 06 2016, @07:25AM
Feh, I don't care about the private, i.e. non-governmental thoughts of politicians are. (The conduct of past politicians is also irrelevant when determining whether or not a crime has been committed.) I care about when the politicians commit crimes such as treason, fraud, etc., and then expect to go unpunished. Either we have the Rule of Law, where all are equally accountable, or we have Natural Law [constitution.org] which politicians and their supporters cannot seem to stomach.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 06 2016, @09:26AM
So your strategy is to make heavy use of red herrings? Nice try. I happen to think that pretty much all politicians should be in prison, including Clinton. But the fact that other politicians aren't going to prison doesn't mean Clinton shouldn't either.
(Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Saturday July 09 2016, @03:37AM
Bush committed war crimes and should be in jail.
Hillary Clinton committed war crimes and should be in jail.
Donald Trump has committed no felonies, funded no mass-murders, started no civil wars, provided no weapons to known war criminals, overthrown no 3rd world governments, and has destroyed no international commonwealths, in his life, ever. Unlike Hillary Clinton. PERIOD.
Who exactly do you want to be in power again???
(Score: 1) by Chrontius on Wednesday July 06 2016, @05:58AM
Strictly speaking, she funded the little-known rebels who were crushed by ISIS.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday July 06 2016, @04:02PM
but its obvious that this witch hunt is 100% partisan
You think her retinue of yes-(wo)men are going to do it instead? Most such prosecutions are going to be partisan because that's who has the incentive to do it. And really, if political enemies don't have the balls to take down someone who breaks the laws egregiously, then who will?