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Snipers in Dallas: [5] Cops Dead; [6] More Cops Wounded
The Atlantic reports:
Two gunmen shot eleven police officers in Dallas, Texas [at 8:58 PM July 7], killing at least four of them.
[...] At a Thursday night press conference, Dallas Police Department Chief David Brown said [...] officers had one of the suspects "cornered", but did not offer further details.
"Tonight, it appears that two snipers shot ten police officers from elevated positions during the protest/rally", Brown said in an initial statement. "Three officers are deceased, two are in surgery, and three are in critical condition. An intensive search for suspect is currently underway." The police department later said an eleventh officer had also been injured and a fourth officer had been killed.
[...] The shootings occurred during a protest against police killings earlier this week in Louisiana and Minnesota. Hundreds rallied in downtown Dallas, near the corner of Main Street and Lamar Street. Local news footage captured what sounds like several gunshots being fired, and the crowd scattering.
[...] No motive has yet been established and it's unclear whether the shooting was related to the protest.
The New York Times just broke the story about the latest in the police killings of black men. It seems the tide has been turned. [Five] Dallas police officers were killed tonight at a protest in that city over these shootings.
I am not surprised, nor am I particularly shocked. No doubt there will be more to come on this topic as the evening progresses. Hopefully something good comes out of this, but I am inclined to doubt it.
takyon: Some more details: One suspect was killed by an explosion intentionally caused by a police robot. He reportedly told a negotiator that he was upset about Black Lives Matter, the recent police shootings, and wanted to kill white people, especially police officers. He said he was not affiliated with any groups and acted alone. Other suspects have been arrested, and a "person of interest" (often identified as a suspect by the news media) was arrested early in the night after he was photographed with his unloaded AR-15. He handed his weapon to an officer shortly after the shootings, and later turned himself into the police for questioning.
President Obama spoke about the shootings shortly after arriving in Poland for a NATO conference. In part, he mentioned that, "When people say 'black lives matter,' that doesn't mean blue lives don't matter, it just means all lives matter — but right now the big concern is the fact that the data shows black folks are more vulnerable to these kinds of incidents [...] This isn't a matter of us comparing the value of lives. This is recognizing that there is a particular burden that is being placed on a group of our fellow citizens. And we should care about that. And we can't dismiss it. We can't dismiss it."
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 08 2016, @04:52PM
The blacklivesmatter movement was planning to disrupt the upcoming Republican and Democratic National Conventions so that martial law will be declared and the elections suspended/indefinitely postponed to keep obama in office. And that U.S. Attorney General L.L. is aware of this and may be part of it. I read this on oathkeepers.org, not sure if this is just a bunch of crap or if something big is getting under way.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 08 2016, @05:40PM
It's just dumb enough for somebody to try it
except for the AG part
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday July 08 2016, @05:58PM
Nonono, these things take time. Clinton is elected, then TPP/TTIP/TISA begin being ratified, then riots in every major city in 2018, then BRICS moves away from the US dollar, then the Western economy completely collapses, and only then martial law, suspended elections, and FEMA concentration camps. You can't just activate martial law out of the blue! If the lizard people were going to overplay their hand like that, there might as well be flying saucers above major cities like in V [wikipedia.org] (or Childhood's End, take your pick).
While granted my theory isn't really testable until 2018 and even then kind of vague (being vague is the secret to fortune telling!), something big is underway. Clinton is very clearly being coronated by the lizard people so I don't really consider her election a good test.
(Oath Keepers points to the original source here [newswithviews.com]. Unfortunately it's just paranoid birther nonsense. It also falls prey to the peculiar line of magickal/religious thinking I've noticed is common among “patriots:” the idea that the Constitution is some holy document its acolytes can invoke to gain power and escape the moon matrix with a line of clever legal reasoning that can't possibly be refuted for the same reason a cross will keep vampires away.)
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by wonkey_monkey on Friday July 08 2016, @07:10PM
I read this on oathkeepers.org, not sure if this is just a bunch of crap
Going solely by the name of the website... yes, yes it is.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk
(Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Saturday July 09 2016, @02:55PM
No, Oathkeepers aren't crap. Visit them, and read a little bit, at least. The Oathkeepers are men and women who have sworn an oath, and intend to keep that oath. Oathkeepers include cops, soldiers and sailors, sheriffs, US Marshalls, and more. If one were to look hard, he might even find a politician or two. I wouldn't hold my breath while searching, but anything is possible.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by aristarchus on Saturday July 09 2016, @07:54PM
No, Oathkeepers aren't crap. Visit them, and read a little bit, at least. The Oathkeepers are men and women who have sworn an oath, and intend to keep that oath.
Yeah, Runaway, like that jailbird and criminal, Johan Ritzenheimer, who recorded the "kids, your daddy swore an oath!" video that was widely (and justifiably) parodies online. They are taking an oath to attack the government of the United States? That is real close to swearing allegiance to ISIL!! An oath to subvert the Constitution, and replace it with the version in Cliven Bundy's pocket, the insane Mormon Cleon Skousen's version of the Constitution.
Sorry, Runaway, but the Oathkeepers are a joke, they are too stupid to be loyal because they have no idea what they are swearing loyalty to. The are really close to be the German followers of Hitler, the untermensch of very little brain.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 10 2016, @09:28AM
While I'm highly certain you're just in your normal foam-at-mouth troll mode, do you have a link to the version of the US Constitution that you referred to? Sans that, it is most likely that the text of Cliven Bundy's pocket Constitution is effectively identical to the text on the Constitution on display at the National Archives.
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On the other hand, sitting Federal judges reveal by their own hand an entirely different thing in mind when swearing their oath to uphold and defend the US Constitution, as evidenced by one Richard A. Posner [slate.com]:
Judges like Posner want to make crap up as they go? Fine, there's a process for that in the Constitution: the amendment process. Anything else is literally illegal.
(Score: 2, Informative) by aristarchus on Sunday July 10 2016, @10:16AM
Not sure how reliable this is, but since I found it in a 20 second internet search, you can probably do better, if you are so inclined.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/01/23/that-constitution-the-bundy-terrorists-tote-around-is-a-perverted-version-of-the-real-thing-video/ [addictinginfo.org]
PS, I never foam at the mouth when I troll, it's unprofessional. And all these "original intent" lawyers are seriously deranged.
(Score: 1) by Fauxlosopher on Sunday July 10 2016, @01:15PM
Eminently unreliable. That you would present it as evidence for your assertion ("subvert the Constitution, and replace it with the version in Cliven Bundy's pocket" [soylentnews.org]) does your reputation as a frothing troll no positive favor. The unreliable source you linked highly critiques the commentary allegedly enclosed alongside the Constitution's text, which is not even suggested as being different from the original's, thus this source had zero value as a support for your assertions about Cliven Bundy's copy of the Constitution. The unreliable source makes the bold claim that the Bundy family, by way of an associate, quote, "believe means that the federal government cannot own land". This is a flatly misleading claim which is directly contradicted by Ammon Bundy's own words [youtube.com] (note the important keyword "massive"; US fedgov claims ownership of more than 80% of Nevada's land, whereas the text of both Bundy's and the National Archives' Constitution limits it greatly to such things as land ownership for use in military installations, postal roads, and similar small-scale examples). Yet another misleading claim is made about the relation of "religion and morality" in regards to their societal necessity for a functional Constitutional government: John Adam's statement is hand-waved away as being taken out of its context as a letter to militia. Yet George Washington's farewell address [yale.edu] contains nearly identical sentiment:
So it seems that, based upon your assertions that do not pass scrutiny even with the "evidence" you proffer as support, the only question left at this point seems to be whether or not you are knowingly spouting ignorant bullcrap.
Ignorance is curable, and it would behoove you to watch the whole of Ammon Bundy's linked video if only to listen to a first-hand account of a newsworthy person's detailed explaination of his view of the Constution and the reasoning behind it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 10 2016, @01:30PM
As an additional follow-up: "the insane Mormon Cleon Skousen's version of the Constitution" revealed! [youtube.com] (Spoiler: it's not even annotated [thefreedictionary.com].)
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 08 2016, @08:49PM
I read this on oathkeepers.org, not sure if this is just a bunch of crap
Oatsheepers? How could you not be sure? Don't you know who the Mouthbreathers are? Sheriff Mack! The "hide behind the women and children" guy! Lonesome Rhodes! These are all ammosexual perverts who were briefly (if at all) in Law Enforcement, and now call for mutiny and armed insurrection and constantly point out the the President is black! Neo-Nazi, Neo-confederates who hate BLM. You know, Bundys! Not the sharpest tools in the shed!
Oathkeepers/Wifebeaters are a bunch of crap. The South (States Rights!) will lose again!!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday July 09 2016, @02:52PM
Ho-hum. This stuff is getting old. I remember hearing that Clinton was going to run for a third term in office. Then, Bush was going for a third term, and he was going to use "terrism" to justify martial law. Now, O'Bummer is going to use racism to justify martial law.
If I wanted to hear this kind of crap, I could find a bar full of ignorant rednecks who belong to the KKK.
The president who declares martial law, and suspends the elections, is the next president to be assassinated while still in office. It ain't happening.