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Snipers in Dallas: [5] Cops Dead; [6] More Cops Wounded
The Atlantic reports:
Two gunmen shot eleven police officers in Dallas, Texas [at 8:58 PM July 7], killing at least four of them.
[...] At a Thursday night press conference, Dallas Police Department Chief David Brown said [...] officers had one of the suspects "cornered", but did not offer further details.
"Tonight, it appears that two snipers shot ten police officers from elevated positions during the protest/rally", Brown said in an initial statement. "Three officers are deceased, two are in surgery, and three are in critical condition. An intensive search for suspect is currently underway." The police department later said an eleventh officer had also been injured and a fourth officer had been killed.
[...] The shootings occurred during a protest against police killings earlier this week in Louisiana and Minnesota. Hundreds rallied in downtown Dallas, near the corner of Main Street and Lamar Street. Local news footage captured what sounds like several gunshots being fired, and the crowd scattering.
[...] No motive has yet been established and it's unclear whether the shooting was related to the protest.
The New York Times just broke the story about the latest in the police killings of black men. It seems the tide has been turned. [Five] Dallas police officers were killed tonight at a protest in that city over these shootings.
I am not surprised, nor am I particularly shocked. No doubt there will be more to come on this topic as the evening progresses. Hopefully something good comes out of this, but I am inclined to doubt it.
takyon: Some more details: One suspect was killed by an explosion intentionally caused by a police robot. He reportedly told a negotiator that he was upset about Black Lives Matter, the recent police shootings, and wanted to kill white people, especially police officers. He said he was not affiliated with any groups and acted alone. Other suspects have been arrested, and a "person of interest" (often identified as a suspect by the news media) was arrested early in the night after he was photographed with his unloaded AR-15. He handed his weapon to an officer shortly after the shootings, and later turned himself into the police for questioning.
President Obama spoke about the shootings shortly after arriving in Poland for a NATO conference. In part, he mentioned that, "When people say 'black lives matter,' that doesn't mean blue lives don't matter, it just means all lives matter — but right now the big concern is the fact that the data shows black folks are more vulnerable to these kinds of incidents [...] This isn't a matter of us comparing the value of lives. This is recognizing that there is a particular burden that is being placed on a group of our fellow citizens. And we should care about that. And we can't dismiss it. We can't dismiss it."
(Score: 5, Insightful) by curunir_wolf on Friday July 08 2016, @07:57PM
Why do you think Trump got the GOP nomination? Why was Bernie so popular (even though the media and the DNC refused to acknowledge him). Why do you think the UK voted to leave the EU.
That's your mini-revolutionary stirrings right there. The people are using the peaceful tools they have to send the message. If it's ignored long enough, it will get more violent.
I am a crackpot
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday July 09 2016, @01:18AM
This, exactly. Both parties have seen a revolution at the polls. Democrats already had the tools in place to quell their revolution - so-called "Super Delegates" bought and paid for in advance. Republicans had no such arrangement in place, so the republican revolution was successful.
We shall see how things play out. The Dems may have destroyed themselves as a party with their obvious play for power. The republicans may - just may - repair the damage they have done to their party over the past 30+ years. Or not.
But something happens soon - possibly violence.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 09 2016, @04:33AM
Lol. Clinton got the majority of the pledged delegates. Throw out the entire group of super-delegates and she still won.
Unlike Trump, Sanders brought fresh blood to the party - Trump only brought general election voters into the primaries.
Those kids might have grown up to be democrats anyway, or they might have become greens or just stayed apathetic.
But when Sanders endorses Clinton, and there is no doubt he will because he's been horse-trading his endorsement for changes to the party platform, changes which he's recently achieved, most of that fresh blood will vote Clinton.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday July 09 2016, @01:33PM
LOL, Bernie got the popular vote. Throw out the bought and paid for delegates and super delegates, and you're left with Bernie.
Where was it, Iowa, I think? Multiple precincts came down to ties, and Hillary won those precincts with coin tosses? She won ALL the coin tosses? Fek, man, give that one a break.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Saturday July 09 2016, @11:01AM
We touch on this trend line all the time on Soylent, but it's being remarked upon by people across the ideological spectrum. Even the eilites know it, having discussed it at length at Davos and Bilderberg the last 3-4 years running. So why don't they refrain from antagonizing the public? If you see an obstacle in the road, you swerve to avoid it. If the road you're on ends in an abyss, you don't keep going down it. But a fiery chasm ahead in society? Nah, let's keep heading straight for it; in fact, why not press down harder on the throttle?
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 09 2016, @07:28PM
I'm guessing you were of age when there was a tv special about Soviets infiltrating the US and taking it over. Can't think of the name.
Anyway, there was a scene of people demonstrating/rioting with an American who was tipped-off to what was going on commenting to a Soviet "You see this? The people may not know why things are going so badly, but they are aware something is wrong. And eventually that anger will turn against you and they will defeat you."
And the Soviet smiles weakly and says: "This? This is a protest we sponsored. It allows us to identify the dangerous among you, and channel that anger towards targets we pick. And after tonight, these same people feel better that they've let some anger out. And they will wake up and go to work, and nothing will change.'
Something like that. Chilled me to the bone.
Just because there is unrest doesn't mean it's directed towards anything meaningful. And don't doubt they elites are actually behind some of it, keeping the focus away from themselves.
(Score: 1, Disagree) by jmorris on Saturday July 09 2016, @01:23AM
It goes back farther. We had the "Silent Majority" that eventually elected Reagan. They were universally reviled by all 'right thinking people' as horrible ignorant racists. They won an election but all that was wiped out by Bush/Clinton/Bush and had little longterm impact. Next we had the Tea Party, protesters so genteel and polite they universally left the protest grounds cleaner than they found them because they were compulsively civilized. Yup, ignorant racists and the nice facade obviously concealed violent revolutionaries just waiting to strike unless the FBI started counter intel ops. They too had a brief electorial impact that came to naught.
So now we get the Trumpening. The lessons have been learned. We don't give a goddamn anymore about being called racist by the usual suspects. Hell, a lot of the Trumpers ARE racists. But most of us are now like myself, no enemies on the Right and don't really care. If we are all going to declared racists anyway, why chase off the actual racists? Let em play too. We ain't feeling polite either, leave that to (((Bill Kristol))) and Glenn Beck's #NeverTrump cucks, it is time for #War now.
And if this too fails? If this attempt to tell our rulers NO! To tell them the governed do NOT consent? Projecting the trend line out leads to really dark places. The mood out in flyover country is almost pre-revolutionary and the divisions haven't been this stark since the 1850s.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 09 2016, @06:02AM
Nigga you bat-shit crazy fool.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday July 10 2016, @05:39AM
Every goddamn time you post you somehow manage to disappoint me further, and I'd already given up hope on you ever being able to hold a rational conversation. You too with the fucking "coincidence detector" triple-brackets now?! How low can you sink?! Am I watching you in the early stages of insanity or what? You're getting to the point where I'd legitimately pity you if it weren't for how incredibly self-destructive and foolish you're being; don't you see you're playing right into the hands of the very elite you claim to rail against and hate?! You're doing exactly what they want, going along with the divide and conquer mentality perfectly.
Something has broken somewhere inside your skull, Mr. Morris. Tonight, here, with this post, you've officially left the reservation.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by jmorris on Sunday July 10 2016, @06:28PM
The funny thing there is the butthurt over it, Google censoring the app, etc. Kristol is pretty much defining the schemijg neocon jew stereotype, long pretending to be of the right while being so obviously not he couldn't really be called a trojan horse. So I f*cked with him.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday July 10 2016, @07:59PM
0) Kristol does not know you exist
1) He can't see your post
2) He wouldn't give a fuck what some neo-Nazi moron who's been played for a fool by the Republican party all his adult life (the word your kind uses is "cuck" I believe...such projection!) thinks about him
3) You keep digging that hole and you're gonna pop out in China. I'm just going to sit back and watch in a mixture of horror and fascination, occasionally pointing out your idiocy for the benefit of others watching, lest they think of imitating you.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...