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posted by takyon on Friday July 08 2016, @03:22PM   Printer-friendly
from the "All-lives-matter."-President-Obama dept.

Snipers in Dallas: [5] Cops Dead; [6] More Cops Wounded

The Atlantic reports:

Two gunmen shot eleven police officers in Dallas, Texas [at 8:58 PM July 7], killing at least four of them.

[...] At a Thursday night press conference, Dallas Police Department Chief David Brown said [...] officers had one of the suspects "cornered", but did not offer further details.

"Tonight, it appears that two snipers shot ten police officers from elevated positions during the protest/rally", Brown said in an initial statement. "Three officers are deceased, two are in surgery, and three are in critical condition. An intensive search for suspect is currently underway." The police department later said an eleventh officer had also been injured and a fourth officer had been killed.

[...] The shootings occurred during a protest against police killings earlier this week in Louisiana and Minnesota. Hundreds rallied in downtown Dallas, near the corner of Main Street and Lamar Street. Local news footage captured what sounds like several gunshots being fired, and the crowd scattering.

[...] No motive has yet been established and it's unclear whether the shooting was related to the protest.

The New York Times just broke the story about the latest in the police killings of black men. It seems the tide has been turned. [Five] Dallas police officers were killed tonight at a protest in that city over these shootings.

I am not surprised, nor am I particularly shocked. No doubt there will be more to come on this topic as the evening progresses. Hopefully something good comes out of this, but I am inclined to doubt it.

takyon: Some more details: One suspect was killed by an explosion intentionally caused by a police robot. He reportedly told a negotiator that he was upset about Black Lives Matter, the recent police shootings, and wanted to kill white people, especially police officers. He said he was not affiliated with any groups and acted alone. Other suspects have been arrested, and a "person of interest" (often identified as a suspect by the news media) was arrested early in the night after he was photographed with his unloaded AR-15. He handed his weapon to an officer shortly after the shootings, and later turned himself into the police for questioning.

President Obama spoke about the shootings shortly after arriving in Poland for a NATO conference. In part, he mentioned that, "When people say 'black lives matter,' that doesn't mean blue lives don't matter, it just means all lives matter — but right now the big concern is the fact that the data shows black folks are more vulnerable to these kinds of incidents [...] This isn't a matter of us comparing the value of lives. This is recognizing that there is a particular burden that is being placed on a group of our fellow citizens. And we should care about that. And we can't dismiss it. We can't dismiss it."


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Friday July 08 2016, @11:19PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday July 08 2016, @11:19PM (#372102) Journal

    I am very interested in how a suspect with a gun that is cornered and, presumably only accessible by robot (not snipers), is considered an imminent threat that needs to be executed.

    For starters, he just killed five people and hadn't surrendered to police.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 10 2016, @03:54AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 10 2016, @03:54AM (#372563)

    No shit. Of course he was a threat, we all know how to read.

    The main point is how to define what an imminent threat is and how much force is necessary to subdue the suspect. It is important to discuss these things and figure out how and what should be done. The label, "imminent threat", is used to justify drone strikes (including at least one targeting a US citizen) and now for using a bomb robot to kill a citizen on US soil without a trial.

    I'm no arm-chair quarterback and will not say that the wrong decision was made, but the public should be vigilant and ensure that its law enforcers are acting in its interests within an acceptable range.