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Black Lives Matter has taken offense at police saying “Blue Lives Matter” and others who say “All Lives Matter,” but now a Wisconsin school is risking ire by branding a class on environmentalism “Green Lives Matter.”
The course at University of Wisconsin at Green Bay will encourage students to support the “environmental justice movement” by “the merging of civil rights and environmental concerns.” But even Scott Furlong, the dean of social sciences at the school, acknowledged that the class name plays on what has become a loaded term.
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'Green Lives Matter' College Course Title Has Some Critics Seeing Red
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 03 2016, @11:56PM
The bad taste police should give the college a ticket for making a play on words on what is hardly a laughing matter.
I think Blue Lives Matter is appropriate, because it is a direct response to BLM.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @12:31AM
I am sick of tired of the "Blue Lives Matter" crap! Why do people think that Smurfs or Krishna are special? I say, "All Colored Lives Matter!" Not just the BlueMan Group.
(Score: 3, Funny) by driverless on Thursday August 04 2016, @04:08AM
Half-lives matter! Will no-one think of the isotopes?
(Score: 2) by davester666 on Thursday August 04 2016, @07:14AM
They are coming for my bottle of RoundUp.
(Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @12:54AM
> I think Blue Lives Matter is appropriate, because it is a direct response to BLM.
Yes it is. BLM is about anti-racism, responses that mimic it are about pro-racism.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @01:15AM
BLM was started by butthurt trustfund kids that waved the muh-racism banner so they too could play the victim card, the most holiest of holies in our day and age.
(Score: 2, Troll) by Francis on Thursday August 04 2016, @03:52AM
#BLM intends to be against racism, but does a pretty shitty job of it. The basic message is that there should be better training for the police and more accountability and oversight to reduce the lives being taken by law enforcement.
The problem though is that they're hypocrites that come out against the police before there's any evidence to be had and refuse to admit when they're wrong if the evidence supports the officer's side of things. They'll then double down by getting upset that there wasn't a prosecution even in cases where the video clearly shows that the use of force was the only option the officer had.
I respect the aim, but the implementation is so shitty that I can't support them.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @07:00AM
Ah, one more thing that Francis does not understand! I wait with bated breath for the next such revelation!!
(Score: 3, Insightful) by cubancigar11 on Thursday August 04 2016, @08:26AM
It is part of the new-age "progressive" politics that asks people to form groups and yell 'i-am-a-victim' and 'they are assholes'. It seems to be giving quicker results so it has become popular. Long term solution? Pffft... we will stumble upon it eventually!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @04:44PM
All the better to rile you up, which I'm certain is BLM's true goal. Anybody who dares criticize them or the way they seem to only get super bent out of shape when it was a thug that got killed is automatically a racist. There are five lights. Moooooslims in Europe, racial tensions in the USA. Prepare for unforeseen consequences?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @09:43PM
Anybody who dares criticize them or the way they seem to only get super bent out of shape when it was a thug that got killed is automatically a racist.
Anyone who uses the term "thug" is automatically a racist. Hi, racist! Not really great to meet you!
The "Thugi" were worshippers of Kali in Colonial India, most of whom made a living by armed robbery of traveling jewel merchants. You might get some idea (rather twisted, but the basis in fact) from "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom". How this relates to racist crackers who managed to get a job in law enforcement, and the racist crackers who support them, I have no idea.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @12:54AM
Actually, all it really does is point to success of the BLM movement while pointing to how it has jumped the shark.
The University adopting the name can only need to more recognition and credibility for BLM.
The fact that BLM has a stick so far up their ass that they can't see this points the way to their ultimate demise.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @01:40AM
ironic you say that on the day when BLM reached a new level of organizing
also civil rights movements don't "jump the shark" no matter how much it comfort you think that way
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @02:14AM
Did they reach Super Saiyan level? Why wasn't the press notified?
In the long view of the world, there has been a general move towards greater justice for all.
In that respect BLM, simply joins critics of Ruby Ridge and Waco in pointing out the excesses of the police.
And my only comfort is that there are still people clear-headed enough to recognize this instead alienating concerns through the lens of identity politics.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @04:57AM
> Why wasn't the press notified?
A Movement for Black Lives Creates a Policy Platform, Signaling a New State for the Coalition [theatlantic.com]
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @05:28AM
But other ideas, including demands to add special protections for trans, queer, and gender-nonconforming people to anti-discrimination laws, a call for free education for black people, and a proposal to implement black economic cooperatives, haven’t previously been spelled out quite this clearly
Why didn't they ask for ponies and rainbows as well?
Yup, exactly the same mishmosh of half-baked proposals that doomed Occupy Wall Street into irrelevancy.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @04:56PM
I think The Atlantic wasn't clear enough there. Here's from the actual platform [m4bl.org]:
We believe in elevating the experiences and leadership of the most marginalized Black people, including but not limited to those who are women, queer, trans, femmes, gender nonconforming, Muslim, formerly and currently incarcerated, cash poor and working class, differently-abled, undocumented, and immigrant. We are intentional about amplifying the particular experience of state and gendered violence that Black queer, trans, gender nonconforming, women and intersex people face. There can be no liberation for all Black people if we do not center and fight for those who have been marginalized. It is our hope that by working together to create and amplify a shared agenda, we can continue to move towards a world in which the full humanity and dignity of all people is recognized.
Going from The Atlantic's summary, in general it reminded me of the days/principles of Kwanzaa [wikipedia.org], notably ujamaa. Here's all of 'em:
Umoja (Unity): To strive for and to maintain unity in the family, community, nation, and race.
Kujichagulia (Self-Determination): To define ourselves, name ourselves, create for ourselves, and speak for ourselves.
Ujima (Collective Work and Responsibility): To build and maintain our community together and make our brothers' and sisters' problems our problems and to solve them together.
Ujamaa (Cooperative Economics): To build and maintain our own stores, shops, and other businesses and to profit from them together.
Nia (Purpose): To make our collective vocation the building and developing of our community in order to restore our people to their traditional greatness.
Kuumba (Creativity): To do always as much as we can, in the way we can, in order to leave our community more beautiful and beneficial than we inherited it.
Imani (Faith): To believe with all our hearts in our people, our parents, our teachers, our leaders, and the righteousness and victory of our struggle.
(Score: 4, Funny) by aristarchus on Thursday August 04 2016, @07:04AM
also civil rights movements don't "jump the shark"
But "reverse discrimination" and "religious freedom to hate" movements can jump sharks quite easily, and usually do it right off the bat, like the Westburrowing Baptismal group with their "God hates Flags" signs. Oh, and the KKK with their "All Livers Matter" counter-protest signs, too. And, also.
(Where is Sarah Palin? Have you ever seen Sarah and Donald in the same place at the same time? Just curious.)
(Score: 3, Funny) by rcamera on Thursday August 04 2016, @11:49AM
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @10:20AM
The whole Black Lives Matter thing came about because a lot of people get the feeling that police officers, district attorneys and judges don't think that Black Life Matters, as demonstrated by the number of black people killed by police without the police officer going to prison for it.
Responding with "Blue Lives Matters" sends a quite clear message of "No, black lives do not matter".
Responding with "All Lives Matter", especially as a white person - a group which is not being targeted in the first place, is an attempt to derail the discussion, in short "I'm not racist, BUT I don't want people to hear your message, because I'm afraid you'll end up with equal rights".
This "Green Lives Matter" appears to be a tasteless attempt to make a joke at the cost of people getting shot, but probably not actually racist, just completely devoid of taste.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @11:26AM
Did you know that more white people are killed by police action, than are black people?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 04 2016, @01:43PM
Clearly, neither does any of the white people, who quite happily defends the police, rather than hoping that today is not the day they will be killed for being white.